Inverted B&m coaster question

[jpdupuis]

Hi,

 

Since few times, I've got a question about B&M inverted coaster.

So, here is the question: Why do they all have twisted drop and not straight one??

 

Thank for aswering:

Jpdupuis

[jmccalip]

I think because the people's legs will hit the cars in front of them if they make a steep, straight drop.

[RctInfinity]

I think I have maybe seen a straight drop on an invert before, but I'm not sure.

 

Anyways, I think it's for the rest of the layout. Considering that the lifts are long, the builders can't make it too spread out.

[thomas2]

Katun has an almost straight drop.

[jpdupuis]

I am talking of a drop without twist!!!!

Straight, like SROS

[Axman]

Raptor has a strait drop after the guck turn and, and Great Bear's drop after the helix. In order to create a good, twisted layout, a twisted drop is quite useful. I have a feeling that a strait drop is just unnecessary.

[IwantRevenge]

it's pretty much because fo feet clearneces the transtition into a drop like like SROS would have to be very long and drawnout. Also comfort, I can't speak since i've only ridden one invert but i'm pretty sure a twisting drop on an invert is more comfortable than a straight one (especially on the crotch).

[JuanSe_Colombia]

Maybe cause for be an inverted coaster it takes harder to get and step angle staright for the seats(I mean they will hit each other). Taht's why I think (IMO) that the intamin launch inverteds can do a 90º drop cause they started from down just like an "U" and not from the top to down like an I don't know the firts middle of a P.

[JuanSe_Colombia]

You know is just like a dive machine coaster from then is easy to get the angle from the top to down but for get the angle from the 90º drop to horizontal track they have this huge part like and J for the cars don't hit each other. With inverted that's you know inverted.(and from hit i mean the rows not the foots)

[VegasCoaster]

I don't see why feet hitting the cars would be a problem since that could only happen going from the lift hill into the drop, and aside from the Dive Machines, B&M doesn't have too many other coasters where the crest of the drop is that sharp.

 

I see the twisting drops being more of a design necessity to give the ride a smaller footprint. If for example Batman didn't have a twisting drop, the ride would take up a lot more space than it does. Most of the inverts I've seen are right in the corner or edge of the property, so it would almost be a necessity for it to fit. Also, why waste the space you could use for future expansion if you don't have to?

[IwantRevenge]

becuase if it's too tight it'll pull an Intamin Drop tower and chop off their feet!

[viking86]

The drop off the MCBR on Katun is straight.

 

I think one of the reasons, as well as space, is to make the passengers feel more exposed. With a twisting drop, the track just seems to dissappear as you go over the top of the lifthill, and you get a great view of the rest of the park. With a straight drop, you would only see the track in front of you while cresting the top of the lift.

[kraken613]

I like twisted drops more than stait ones. I canjust imagine a Dive Machine with a verticle drop that turns!

[kraxleRIDAH]

Most of it has to do with the articulation of the cars that make up the train. A completely straight drop off-the-lift for an inverted coaster would require a very large pullout on the bottom but most importantly at the top as to not risk bodily injury to riders (I'm talking about the legs).

 

Though Katun does have a straight first drop for the most part, it still has a bank to it at the top that allows it to safely enter the straight section of drop track. If you look at Raptor and Orochi, most of the first half of the drop is banked off to the left or right before straightening out towards the bottom.

 

And other reasons such as decreased visibility during the descent as well as requiring much more room to accomodate the wider pull-outs. Banking drops by design, are always and can be built steeper than a straight drop-off on any closed-circuit inverted coaster.

[JuanSe_Colombia]

That's what I'm talking about But you explain it so much better

Maybe cause for be an inverted coaster it takes harder to get and step angle staright for the seats(I mean they will hit each other). Taht's why I think (IMO) that the intamin launch inverteds can do a 90º drop cause they started from down just like an "U" and not from the top to down like an I don't know the firts middle of a P.

[timetrial3141592]

My theory is that a twisted drop allows for good visuals on the way down. With a straight drop, you would see nothing interesting (even in the front car.) You would just see the track. The twist helps prevent that.

[JamesMC]

My Two Theories (and my .02):

 

1) It's kind of B&M's signature

 

2.) It takes up less room/less structure than a straight drop- which equals less cost to build.

[RIP Psyclone]

In my experience, a curved drop is less thrilling than a straight one. If the curved drops instead did a 90 degree turn after the pre drop, then a straight drop, it probably wouldn't take up that much more space. Many coasters have that design.

[Ed]

^ Theories... =\ Are all bullcrap. Sorry

 

It IS because of your legs. In any inverted ride when you go over the top ofthe lift the cars because closer together. And it's the same when you go down a drop and if people have their feet up on the car infront as you down the drop BAMN shattered leg.

 

Legs are why all the Vekoma Giant Boomerangs have MILLIONS of warnings about putting your feet up on the car infront.

[PURE]

^You mean one on the back of every car?

 

Which still doesn't seem to stop some people from putting them up there...talk about an ugly sight, eeesh.