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Is it the manufacturer’s obligation to accommodate the overweight enthusiasts and public, or should the responsibility lie with the rider to shed some pounds before riding?  

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  1. 1. Is it the manufacturer’s obligation to accommodate the overweight enthusiasts and public, or should the responsibility lie with the rider to shed some pounds before riding?

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there's only 1 ride I've seen that doesn't allow much accomadation as far as size goes. You basically have to be of relative size and you can't be tall. The ride I'm referring to is La Revolution at Knotts.

I can't tell you how many people I've seen told that they can't ride just because they're to big, and half the time its not because they're too fat, but mainly because they're too tall. You can't control your hight, and it should be that hard to design the restraints a little better to accomdate tall people. Also, it has to be pressed right up agianst your stomach, so you can't be pushing "being too fat." I think they should design the restraints to accomdate more people then what they currently do, but generally speaking I think its more of the rider's responsibility.

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^I agree with you Robb, its ALWAYS somebody else falut for everything. And its not just fast food, it's in politics among other things (Like blaming Intamin for peoples deaths on their rides). Peole dont want to think that its they're fault they are overweight, but want to put the blame on the thing that they are addicted to, even though they are the ones who chose buy that companies food!

 

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I do blame "Fast Food" companies for the growing problem with people being overweight

Yes, it's those fast food companies who are FORCE FEEDING people their food. It's statements like these that make me realize that people just don't believe in personal responsibility anymore. It's never "their fault" so it MUST be someone else's. The fast food companies, the coaster manufacturers, etc.

 

I lost nearly 100 pounds eating nothing but carbs and fast food. It's all about moderation, exercise and your eating habits.

 

Having said that, if you're too fat to ride a coaster, especially if you're a coaster enthusiast, lose weight. It's that simple.

 

It's really not that hard. I lost 100 pounds in about 4 months, and every once in a while when I put on 20 pounds here or there, it's gone in about 2 weeks.

 

--Robb

 

Ahem... BBC news January 30, 2003

 

Dr John Hoebel and colleagues at Princeton University in New Jersey based their theory on a study of rats.

 

'Cold turkey'

 

They found that rats fed a diet containing 25% sugar are thrown into a state of anxiety when the sugar is removed.

 

Their symptoms included chattering teeth and the shakes - similar to those seen in people withdrawing from nicotine or morphine, according to researchers.

 

Dr Hoebel said he believed high-fat foods stimulate opioids or 'pleasure chemicals' in the brain.

 

"The implication is that some animals - and by extension some people - can become overly dependent on sweet food," he said.

 

Further studies published in New Scientist magazine back up this theory.

 

Ann Kelley, a neuroscientist at the University of Wisconsin Medical School, the behaviour of rats after the were given sweet, salty and fatty foods.

 

She found a link between the brain's pleasure chemicals and a craving for this type of food.

 

She stimulated the rats' brains with a synthetic version of the natural opioid enkephalin. This caused rats to eat up to six times their normal intake of fat.

 

In addition, Dr Kelley identified long-lasting changes in rats' brain chemistry - similar to those caused by extended use of morphine or heroin.

 

Dr Kelley said: "This says that mere exposure to pleasurable tasty foods is enough to change gene expression and that suggests that you could be addicted to food."

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2707143.stm

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IMO, I think that the person should try and loose some weight. I agree with Robb when he says that people need to take responsibility. Sure, there are the occasional rides that when I was at my heaviest (165lbs at 5'8 ) I had to squeeze into them. But when I noticed that my arms had gotten to pudgy to stuff them in between the partitions on the Beast during the final helix (I do this so I don't get jarred around like a ragdoll!) I went and lost 45lbs by next coaster season. Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying that everyone shoud go out and loose weight if they can't squeeze their arms into the seat cushions on the Beast... but what I guess I'm trying to say is if someone gets on a ride and they are to the point where one or two operators are shoving down to make the lap bar click and they can't do it... the person shouldn't walk away swearing at the ride or the operators for that matter.

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We can't blame fast food companies for the obesity problem but fast food companies making money out of it.

I read an article somewhere that claimed in America there is a real obesity problem . This is a sickness jsut like diabetes or anthing else.

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We can't blame fast food companies for the obesity problem but fast food companies making money out of it.

I read an article somewhere that claimed in America there is a real obesity problem . This is a sickness jsut like diabetes or anthing else. There are people that are like this not because thery eat like pigs, but because they are sick.

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(195 lbs, 5'9")

I've been creeping up in weight since I got out of boot camp at 140 lbs. If I ever get so big I can't fit in a rollercoaster or flat ride, I'd brobably either shoot myself or stop eating for a while.

 

I think it would be pretty embarrasing to be that big.

I can definitely say one thing for certain: I haven't lived in the USA for almost six years, and I really have noticed a difference in just how fat our country is getting. It's actually pretty gross and sad.

 

That's just my opinions, but I agree with one thing up there ^

 

McDonald's just tastes so d@mn good sometimes!

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I think there is no one here to blame but the person themselves. A person who is so overweight that they can't fit into a Rollercoaster seat, must realize that something is the problem. And it's not the company's fault. I myself am only 15 but i'm like 215 pounds. Now i'm not FAT, I am just big. I find no problem fitting into these seats and locking myself in on any of these coasters. I do though however think that there should be one general row on trains that are reserved for larger guests. But if your too big to fit into a seat ALL-TOGETHER, then you need to drop a few; then go back and ride till you puke causing you to lose more weight

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I really don't think it is just the fast food companies. It seems like many of the restaraunts in the states have been jacking up portions. Since meal prices have been rising to cover such useless restaurant costs as stupid decorations and making the dining "experience" more fun, and customers complain about those rising prices, they compensate with more food. (Food at many places is one of if not the lowest costs in managing a restaurant after salary, property and sales taxes, electricity, etc!)

 

This, along with more and more Americans eating out more and more often, surely isn't helping waistlines. Bottom line, it is 99% about willpower and drive.

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I do blame "Fast Food" companies for the growing problem with people being overweight

Yes, it's those fast food companies who are FORCE FEEDING people their food. It's statements like these that make me realize that people just don't believe in personal responsibility anymore. It's never "their fault" so it MUST be someone else's. The fast food companies, the coaster manufacturers, etc.

 

I lost nearly 100 pounds eating nothing but carbs and fast food. It's all about moderation, exercise and your eating habits.

 

Having said that, if you're too fat to ride a coaster, especially if you're a coaster enthusiast, lose weight. It's that simple.

 

It's really not that hard. I lost 100 pounds in about 4 months, and every once in a while when I put on 20 pounds here or there, it's gone in about 2 weeks.

 

--Robb

 

Ahem... BBC news January 30, 2003

 

Dr John Hoebel and colleagues at Princeton University in New Jersey based their theory on a study of rats.

 

'Cold turkey'

 

They found that rats fed a diet containing 25% sugar are thrown into a state of anxiety when the sugar is removed.

 

Their symptoms included chattering teeth and the shakes - similar to those seen in people withdrawing from nicotine or morphine, according to researchers.

 

Dr Hoebel said he believed high-fat foods stimulate opioids or 'pleasure chemicals' in the brain.

 

"The implication is that some animals - and by extension some people - can become overly dependent on sweet food," he said.

 

Further studies published in New Scientist magazine back up this theory.

 

Ann Kelley, a neuroscientist at the University of Wisconsin Medical School, the behaviour of rats after the were given sweet, salty and fatty foods.

 

She found a link between the brain's pleasure chemicals and a craving for this type of food.

 

She stimulated the rats' brains with a synthetic version of the natural opioid enkephalin. This caused rats to eat up to six times their normal intake of fat.

 

In addition, Dr Kelley identified long-lasting changes in rats' brain chemistry - similar to those caused by extended use of morphine or heroin.

 

Dr Kelley said: "This says that mere exposure to pleasurable tasty foods is enough to change gene expression and that suggests that you could be addicted to food."

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2707143.stm

 

Sorry, I believe about 10% of what the "news" tells me. Are you one of those people who pick and choose what to believe or quote in the news because it happens to suit you at the time?

 

Not sure if you read what I posted, or if you were just simply looking for a "rebuttal" but I *LOST* 100 lbs eating food like carbs and McDonalds. So I'm living proof that your little story could be total crap.

 

Looks like you're just yet another person trying to find more excuses to blame someone else!

 

--Robb "A big believer in personal responsibility." Alvey

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Since meal prices have been rising to cover such useless restaurant costs as stupid decorations and making the dining "experience" more fun, and customers complain about those rising prices, they compensate with more food. (Food at many places is one of if not the lowest costs in managing a restaurant after salary, property and sales taxes, electricity, etc!)

 

It always amazes me how much Americans complain about how every thing is so expensive (not accusing you though). I dread to think how they feel when they visit London and see what expensive really is!

 

We'll be visiting California in 3 weeks (hurrah! But Boo! coz we'll miss Tatsu ) and have done a lot of research about restaurants. Our blowout meal is at The Dining Room at The Ritz Carlton in SF. This is apparently one of the best restaurants in the US and even this is cheap compared to those in London.

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I really couldn't be really stuffed reading four entire pages of argumentive literature so i'll say this in defence of little people (even though i'm moderately tall):

 

Small people can't get taller, but fat people can lose some weight.

 

Seriously, if you love rides and you want to hit the thrills, do yourself a favour and change your diet before we have some more Intamin ejectees.

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Looks like you're just yet another person trying to find more excuses to blame someone else!

 

--Robb "A big believer in personal responsibility." Alvey

 

Yeah, there are WAY too many people who love to point fingers at other people for things that were mostly brought onto themselves BY themselves (woah, sorry that was wordy).

 

Aside from medicinal side effects and heredity, my being obese is pretty much a direct cause of the choices that I have made over the years and still make today. Granted, medicine, heredity, mental/physical disorders DO have an affect on why a person is obese, I feel that a person must take up responsibility for his/her own behavior and make a positive change is he/she chooses to do so.

 

Then again, we've all heard of the notorious fast food conspriracy where they sneak into people's homes and shove high-calorie foods down unsuspecting people's throats. They're just terrible...the cause of all society's problems, really.

 

BTW... I love how the creator of this thread cleverly intergrated his/her opinions into the poll response options.

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I do blame "Fast Food" companies for the growing problem with people being overweight

Yes, it's those fast food companies who are FORCE FEEDING people their food. It's statements like these that make me realize that people just don't believe in personal responsibility anymore. It's never "their fault" so it MUST be someone else's. The fast food companies, the coaster manufacturers, etc.

 

I lost nearly 100 pounds eating nothing but carbs and fast food. It's all about moderation, exercise and your eating habits.

 

Having said that, if you're too fat to ride a coaster, especially if you're a coaster enthusiast, lose weight. It's that simple.

 

It's really not that hard. I lost 100 pounds in about 4 months, and every once in a while when I put on 20 pounds here or there, it's gone in about 2 weeks.

 

--Robb

 

Ahem... BBC news January 30, 2003

 

Dr John Hoebel and colleagues at Princeton University in New Jersey based their theory on a study of rats.

 

'Cold turkey'

 

They found that rats fed a diet containing 25% sugar are thrown into a state of anxiety when the sugar is removed.

 

Their symptoms included chattering teeth and the shakes - similar to those seen in people withdrawing from nicotine or morphine, according to researchers.

 

Dr Hoebel said he believed high-fat foods stimulate opioids or 'pleasure chemicals' in the brain.

 

"The implication is that some animals - and by extension some people - can become overly dependent on sweet food," he said.

 

Further studies published in New Scientist magazine back up this theory.

 

Ann Kelley, a neuroscientist at the University of Wisconsin Medical School, the behaviour of rats after the were given sweet, salty and fatty foods.

 

She found a link between the brain's pleasure chemicals and a craving for this type of food.

 

She stimulated the rats' brains with a synthetic version of the natural opioid enkephalin. This caused rats to eat up to six times their normal intake of fat.

 

In addition, Dr Kelley identified long-lasting changes in rats' brain chemistry - similar to those caused by extended use of morphine or heroin.

 

Dr Kelley said: "This says that mere exposure to pleasurable tasty foods is enough to change gene expression and that suggests that you could be addicted to food."

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2707143.stm

 

That article is misleading. First off, they don't know what they're talking about: suger is a carbohydrate, not a fat. Secondly, sugar in moderate amounts is nescessary for survival, so a 'pleasure' respose is sort of obvious. Finally, if you don't have the self-control to moderate your diet, you're going to gain weight. Bottom line. Don't blame others for your problem.

 

Oh, and it bears noting: rats are not people.

 

-ACE

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I've always struggled with my weight, being 5'7 and currently about somehwere in the 230 lbs range...I exercise when I can, but it's tough to stay consistent, and I work at a grocery store, often late at night, and there's way too many temptations...

 

Despite this, I've never had any problems getting on a coaster. I managed to fit into Apollo's Charriot, and Alpengesit a while back, without any problems. And nobody's ever told me to get off of one.

 

But, I've realized lately, that I need to really start losing weight again. I've already been gulping down cup after cup of water at night, to curb my soda addiction...now I just need to find a way to keep myself from snacking at work!

 

Going a little off-topic here, I used to use the treadmill for 40 minutes constantly, walking and jogging, but now if I use it, it makes my calves sore for some reason after about 20 minutes, which it never did before...I've used elipticals, but I just don;t sweat as much on those things...if anyone's got an idea of what I should do about this dilemma, I'd be glad to hear it...

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I've posted my story about a hundred eleventeen times, but I will once more.

 

I'm 5'-8" and weighed 215. Today, I weigh in at 140. How? Diabetes. I lost about 50 lbs. before being diagnosed, and an additional 20 since. This was four years ago.

 

Now I still drink a lot of soda, but it's all diet now, which is OK with my dietician. Movieguy, you might want to be checked out for diabetes just as a precaution---heck, anyone should if you're overweight.

 

Back to topic, even when I was "up there," I had no trouble fitting into any coaster seats. Now, I wonder if I'm too small because occasionally, even with the restraint all the way down, there's still some room.

 

Finally, I've said this before, too (we old people repeat ourselves repeat ourselves)...If you can be too short to ride safely, you can be too large. There's no rule that guarantees anyone the right to ride.

 

You fit, or you go sit. Sorry, but that's life.

 

Eric

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Ann Kelley, a neuroscientist at the University of Wisconsin Medical School, the behaviour of rats after the were given sweet, salty and fatty foods.

 

She found a link between the brain's pleasure chemicals and a craving for this type of food.

 

She stimulated the rats' brains with a synthetic version of the natural opioid enkephalin. This caused rats to eat up to six times their normal intake of fat.

 

In addition, Dr Kelley identified long-lasting changes in rats' brain chemistry - similar to those caused by extended use of morphine or heroin.

 

Dr Kelley said: "This says that mere exposure to pleasurable tasty foods is enough to change gene expression and that suggests that you could be addicted to food."

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2707143.stm

 

 

Sorry, I believe about 10% of what the "news" tells me. Are you one of those people who pick and choose what to believe or quote in the news because it happens to suit you at the time?

 

Not sure if you read what I posted, or if you were just simply looking for a "rebuttal" but I *LOST* 100 lbs eating food like carbs and McDonalds. So I'm living proof that your little story could be total crap.

 

Looks like you're just yet another person trying to find more excuses to blame someone else! Taiko Wink

 

--Robb "A big believer in personal responsibility." Alvey

 

These food companies have been making food with WAAAAY too much fat and salt and carbs because it's cheaper to produce, transport and plus they don't get sued as much for it going bad and killing people.

Instead of their customers dropping dead from food poisoning, they die later from a stroke or heart attack or complications from diabetes. Sure everybody has a choice, sorta, but until they were publically squeezed, the food companies kept putting out the same old crap.

Have you seen how much sodium is in pretty much all processed food?

At least a lot of potato chips are made with 0% transfats....

I think if people have more healthy tasty choices, they'll choose better food.

I blame fast food companies for having crap choices. I blame good times (peaceful time between famines) for everyone eating too much.

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Sure everybody has a choice, sorta, but until they were publically squeezed, the food companies kept putting out the same old crap.

Everyone has a choice. PERIOD. There is no "sorta" about it. No one is FORCING anyone to eat anything.

 

And I wouldn't call a one-sided movie that told people "McDonalds is bad for you because one guy said so" publically squeezed. I call it "people being to stupid to make their own decisions." Another interesting point. There are McDonalds on practically every street corner in Japan. And every time you go in one, they are PACKED. Do you see fat people in Japan? No. Because they make good choices about what they eat and how much.

 

Well, even still, it looks like people's short attention span has won out since in the last quarter McDonald's stock has traded at a 5-year high:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MCD&t=5y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

 

Good for them. They deserve it because they didn't do anything wrong.

 

--Robb "Who is tempted to lock this thread before more people get dumber." Alvey

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Well, even still, it looks like people's short attention span has won out since in the last quarter McDonald's stock has traded at a 5-year high:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MCD&t=5y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

 

Good for them. They deserve it because they didn't do anything wrong.

 

--Robb "Who is tempted to lock this thread before more people get dumber." Alvey

 

Different story over in the UK. MacDonalds are doing really badly at the mo, losing out to Subway I think. They've just had to close 25 branches. Go figure.

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