Ride Concept I think would be Great

[pkdcoaster]

A Roller coaster you Don't ride facing forward or backwards..but sideways

I mean I doesnt seem like it would be that difficult to pull off (I mean if they made X work)

 

Loops and corskrews always look awesome when you turn your head to the side and just imagine a heatline roll facing sideways. (Sweet)

 

I Just can not believe no coaster maker has tried this yet

 

What do you guys think?

 

JEFF

[DerekRx]

Nice idea, but you're about 11 years too late, as it has been done before, by Masago. One is called Speed Border, and its at Sega Joypolis in Tokyo. You can probably find several pictures of it right here on these forums under people's Japan Photo Trip Reports.

[pkdcoaster]

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1922.htm

 

That is not what I was talking about.

That is a gimmick coaster that has sideways moments. You could have also said a crazy mouse is a sideways coaster. I am talking about something like Kumba or SFMM Viper but sideways (a Big Looping coaster)

 

JEFF

[benzo41190]

I could kinda see this....but the forces from side to side would not be good for the head

[Blazen_AZN]

I think the reason this hasn't been made is that it's just to damn gimmicky. It's like a backwards coaster; at first, yeah it's fun, but after awhile the newness wares off and you think, "Does this really ADD to the experience?". I don't think it would.

 

I've been on Speed Border, i think if there's a time to make a coaster sideways, they picked the right one. It's small, has sharp turns, actually has a [semi] purpose to it. (that being the view).

[pkdcoaster]

Not really, there is not alot of linear forces unless the rides E-Brakes are activated or it is a launch coaster. Lateral forces would be on the headrest and in the air. I do not believe the headbanging would be any worse than it is now.

[Carnage]

I wonder if dizzyness/nausia would be a problem for some though?

 

I know I get pretty dizzy if I look sideways while on a boomerang,etc.

[benzo41190]

but just the lift, brakes, elements, ect would still put force that would make it painful to either your ass or your head. I mean, Im sure it could work, but I really dont think any company really wants to do it.

[Blazen_AZN]

^^ Hmm, im not sure if that is the reason or not but Speed Border fore-went (is that a word?) a traditional OTSR and used a harness-thingy instead.

[rollermonkey]

http://www.rcdb.com/ig1922.htm

 

That is not what I was talking about.

That is a gimmick coaster that has sideways moments. You could have also said a crazy mouse is a sideways coaster. I am talking about something like Kumba or SFMM Viper but sideways (a Big Looping coaster)

 

JEFF

 

Um, how can you say that? Have you ever actually ridden this coaster? I have. It goes sideways the entire length of the track. You load facing sideways, you climb the lifts sideways, and you travel along the entire length of track sideway.

While on the second lift hill, the car is rotated 180 degrees so you change orientation from facing right to facing left and the cars are returned to the original position on the pre-station brakes. The cars do not spin, but they do rock arounde the turns which minimizes a lot of the forces. It doesn't have traditional OTSR's but more like The intention is that you are simulating surfing or skateboarding. (The waves on the giant projection screens says it is a surfing theme, but the actual riding position feels more like skateboarding to me.)

 

It may be a gimmick coaster, as it isn't the tallest, fastest, coaster with the most inversions, but it is definitely the tallest, fastest, longest SIDEWAYS coaster in the world.

 

I understand that you desire is to see a coaster with trains that have sideways facing seating and a more traditional layout, preferably with inversions. I agree that it would probably be cool, but it would be just as gimmicky.

 

The point I really want to make is don't make assuptions about a coaster you've never experienced for yourself based on a few pictures. To me you sounded like you were bashing the ride, and that isn't fair, and doesn't help others understand the point you were trying to make. Speed Boarder is nearly completely in the dark, and it is very difficult to get a decent picture of what it does.

 

/Rant.

[CoasterExpert13]

A Roller coaster you Don't ride facing forward or backwards..but sideways

I mean I doesnt seem like it would be that difficult to pull off (I mean if they made X work)

 

Loops and corskrews always look awesome when you turn your head to the side and just imagine a heatline roll facing sideways. (Sweet)

 

I Just can not believe no coaster maker has tried this yet

 

What do you guys think?

 

JEFF

 

Yeah, I actually thought this up (even though this probab;y was alreay drawn up) in 10th grade, or a project. I drew an Inverted coaster but all the cars were built sideways on the trak....If I can just find the darn picture.............

[DerekRx]

I don't think you'll ever see a looping sideways coaster. I think the forces would probably screw with those darn pesky spines and necks we seem to need to use to walk and stuff.

[KrakenKing]

I heard somewhere that they've tried this before (With a loop) at IAAPA a few years ago. They even had a full version of the ride set up where people were able to ride it, when the people got off they said they didn't like it because it hurt their necks from all the g/forces getting exerted onto the side of their body instead of their backs...

 

I guess we'll just have to stick to looking to the side when traveling through the loops.

[Calvin]

I realise that I'm gravethread digging here but shut up.

 

I like the idea of doing something further with the Speed Boarder/Spin Bullet. Imagine going up a lift hill then down a little drop, then along a long flat section where the car spins two full revolutions. The car stops with you facing backwards and dives down a huge drop. At the bottom of the drop the car turns around to face forward in time to see a hammerhead. The car continues to turn and you take the hammerhead at high speed, facing the ground. Then at the end there could be a helix where you face inward and are plastered to your seat.

 

It could be a pretty good ride. Sort of like a horizontal X.

[BiCoastal Kid]

The main problemw tih a large version of this would eb the accelerational forces. Your head would be constantly pressed against whichever side OTSR was toward the back of the train.

[Golfie]

Speak of the devil, my Mom was talking about that yesterday. A ride like that would be really disorienting. Although inversions would feel totally different on a ride like that.

[Calvin]

The main problemw tih a large version of this would eb the accelerational forces. Your head would be constantly pressed against whichever side OTSR was toward the back of the train.

 

Unless the train was going up a hill or launching, I doubt that. I don't think sideways inversions would be a good idea...

[TheGreatOne]

I could kinda see this....but the forces from side to side would not be good for the head

 

Exactly. Any kind of major transition in forces (vertical, negative, turns, inversions) would hammer your head. Seriously...it would make airtime not fun.

 

-Bryan "forwards and backwards for me, please" Wood

[ECZenith]

That would certainly have some unique visuals...

 

Would be weird completing an inversion sideways.

[SLUSHIE]

I dont see how the forces would be any different than that of a zero G roll or anything like that.