Woodie Warrior Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Also, does anybody know what's going on with the Six Flags St. Louis Fansite Forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I don't know why people are making excuses for Six Flags. It's a boomerang. They should've had ample time to get it up by opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalCoasters Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Okay, this is a 20+ year old ride that just needs some repainting and new trains (if they're even getting new ones, which is very unlikely), yet two-and-a-half months after being dismantled, it's still sitting in a parking lot. I'm not an expert on painting rides, but I don't think it takes that long to do that. At this point, there should be construction starting in St. Louis, or at least the track and supports should be there. If you are promising an opening date, it should open on that date. Just saying... Then I assume you could accurately tell me the precise amount of time it takes a small crew of individuals to paint dozens of pieces of supports and track, along with presumably a host of other items that could take precedence? And also tell me how long it would take to get a fleet of trucks organized to transport the pieces to St. Louis? And all while there's more than a dozen other parks with projects just as complex? There's a heck of a lot of variables involved in such a huge cooperate process. Yes, other chains may have many of their additions already partially installed, but they also could have ordered them sooner. Like I said before, I'm not defending SFI, I'm just pointing out the fact that people far too quickly jump on the Blame Train and bashing the chain. No chain deserves bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Okay, this is a 20+ year old ride that just needs some repainting and new trains (if they're even getting new ones, which is very unlikely), yet two-and-a-half months after being dismantled, it's still sitting in a parking lot. I'm not an expert on painting rides, but I don't think it takes that long to do that. At this point, there should be construction starting in St. Louis, or at least the track and supports should be there. If you are promising an opening date, it should open on that date. Just saying... Then I assume you could accurately tell me the precise amount of time it takes a small crew of individuals to paint dozens of pieces of supports and track, along with presumably a host of other items that could take precedence? And also tell me how long it would take to get a fleet of trucks organized to transport the pieces to St. Louis? And all while there's more than a dozen other parks with projects just as complex? There's a heck of a lot of variables involved in such a huge cooperate process. Yes, other chains may have many of their additions already partially installed, but they also could have ordered them sooner. Like I said before, I'm not defending SFI, I'm just pointing out the fact that people far too quickly jump on the Blame Train and bashing the chain. No chain deserves bashing. It takes about two weeks to paint a boomerang. It's not like they use paint brushes How long would it take to get a fleet or trucks prepared? About 1-2 phone calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 There's a heck of a lot of variables involved in such a huge cooperate process. Yes, other chains may have many of their additions already partially installed, but they also could have ordered them sooner. Um, Six Flags already owned the coaster, so other chains probably didn't order them sooner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalCoasters Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 There's a heck of a lot of variables involved in such a huge cooperate process. Yes, other chains may have many of their additions already partially installed, but they also could have ordered them sooner. Um, Six Flags already owned the coaster, so other chains probably didn't order them sooner.... In that respect I was referring to the overall chain, not just SFSL. You obviously are not willing to understand the point I'm conveying, so I won't continue to try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbydinn Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Amazing that we have people here who have already been to opening day 2013 to confirm that the ride will not be ready. Seriously, it's a boomerang, it won't take long to set up. If they start shipping out pieces soon it could very well be open on opening day. And if it's not, so what. SFSTl has a longer operating season than most seasonal parks, so even if god forbid it opens a week or two late, there will still be plenty of time to ride it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperLover Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It's really not the point that the ride is a Boomerang, or how long the park is open, the point is that Six Flags should think before disappointing people by saying wrond opening dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbydinn Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 ^ Which is something that every chain has done, so I'm not sure why Six Flags always gets the bad rep for it. Besides, I haven't even seen the park say anything about a opening date for Boomerang yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaGuy Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) ^^ I agree. Usually Six Flags keeps their ride opening dates very vague like "Opening Spring 2013" and never give exact dates. I don't see what the big deal is anyways. It's just a Boomerang, they don't take that long to set up. And yes, I agree other parks do it too so Six Flags isn't the only guilty party. Edited December 13, 2012 by ArizonaGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godwyn Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 You guys do realize that you are arguing over the opening of a Boomerang, right? I don't think many people will be disappointed if it's not ready on opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I don't think many people will be disappointed if it's not ready on opening day. Then why waste money on installing it at all? I don't understand this line of thinking. It's not about the boomerang--it's the principal involved. Are guests who visit the park on opening weekend less valued than those who visit during peak season? Why should they have to pay the same admission price for a lesser experience? I just can't believe so many of you are adamant about defending Six Flags on this issue. Who cares if other chains have rides with delayed openings (though most others are usually justified/unintentional)? This discussion is about Six Flags, and the fact that they fail to ever open a ride on time reflects negatively on them as a company. If you're going to argue with that...I'm convinced you're arguing just to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 ^Personally, I think of a Boomerang as a "lesser experience" to begin with. Park chains do tend to keep opening dates for rides vague until they get farther along in the construction process. (Busch does this as a matter of routine--and remember how they were bitten on the butt when they missed Mach Tower's opening, largely thanks to the manufacturer's snafus, by about three months.) I'm not defending Six Flags here. I just don't have all the facts regarding the apparent delay in moving and installing the Boomerang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArundelHigh Coasters Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It all depends on how efficient they are in re-constructing it. My guess is that it won't open until April-June 2013 because of the winter weather conditions. It may take quicker though, because according to someone other user's earlier post, Flashback is being painted the new colors for Boomerang, which will get one step out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 It all depends on how efficient they are in re-constructing it. My guess is that it won't open until April-June 2013 because of the winter weather conditions. It may take quicker though, because according to someone other user's earlier post, Flashback is being painted the new colors for Boomerang, which will get one step out of the way. Six Flags seems to have a fetish for opening things on Memorial Day Weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrs2420 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Also, does anybody know what's going on with the Six Flags St. Louis Fansite Forum? Nope, I've just about given up on that site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterP Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Visitors who visit Six Flags on Opening Weekend in April aren't the typical park visitors. They are either die-hards who will be back many times before the end of the season, or they are local families who want to enjoy bringing the kids during cool weather days. Nary a single person outside of idiots will be upset that the new coaster isn't ready by early April. And if they are upset, they won't be enough of a dent in the complaint department for anyone in the front office to care one bit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArundelHigh Coasters Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 ^^ And yes, I agree other parks do it too so Six Flags isn't the only guilty party. But why does that make it okay?...last year, Apocalypse at SFA didn't open until June, and most other rides from SF take to long to open as well. It's mainly because SF does the "get your last rides in" thing before they dismantle coasters 7 rides that will be relocated/ or removed, unless it was SBNO, or had a major accident or something. I still think Boomerang has potential for opening on opening day. In an earlier post, someone said it was being painted the new colors in Texas, so that takes care of the painting process, all they have to do is pour footers, set up the coaster, build the station house, add the additional themeing when it comes to setting up the coaster body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArizonaGuy Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 ^^ I never said it was ok. I was just pointing out that it happens at other park chains all the time, but it seems like Six Flags is the only one that gets crap for it. In most cases, Six Flags keeps it vague (Coming Spring 2013)for the most part so I don't see why people are even complaining about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArundelHigh Coasters Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 ^^I never said it was ok. I was just pointing out that it happens at other park chains all the time, but it seems like Six Flags is the only one that gets crap for it. In most cases, Six Flags keeps it vague (Coming Spring 2013)for the most part so I don't see why people are even complaining about this. I guess that's true, if you look at it, a lot of park chains open their new coasters after opening day, and it does seem like SF gets the most blame for it. Mainly because it happens with most of their new coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 LOL We're complaining about a boomerang, when a full-out coaster (Full Throttle) hasn't even had pieces show up at the park yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screaminkid2005 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 ^Yes it has! Check the SFMM thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Warrior Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Wow. 2 pieces. That thing won't be open until June at the earliest, most like July... Back to Boomerang, SFSTL won't have it up until late May... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrightFest1408 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) [Comment Deleted] Edited December 21, 2012 by FrightFest1408 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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