LeJebba Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 So Talley Amusements recently signed on to do the Ohio State Fair. When I found out about it on MCW, I looked on Talley's website to see what all rides they have, and it wasn't a BAD selection, however, AoA is far superior. I will be listing the pros and cons of Talley doing the fair Pros: -A Zyklon coaster -A neat looking portable slide named Fast Trax -A Zipper Cons: -No swing tower ride -No Wisdom, Mack, Reverchon, or Bertazzon Himalaya -No Spinning Mouse Coaster -No Space Roller (Space Roller is an independent ride so it could end up showing up though) -No swinging ship ride -No swinging pendulum ride like a Fire Ball or a Freak Out or a Street Fighter -No Larson Looper (although I will say AoA has not used theirs since a man got electrocuted setting theirs up at the Delta Fair in 2016) -No A.R.M. Ali Baba-style ride -No Cliff Hanger So you get the point. They won't be as good as AoA was. What are your thoughts on them doing the midway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 If they have a Zipper then it’s automatically an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 ^Also not killing their guests would be an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Peck Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 So Talley Amusements recently signed on to do the Ohio State Fair. When I found out about it on MCW, I looked on Talley's website to see what all rides they have, and it wasn't a BAD selection, however, AoA is far superior. I will be listing the pros and cons of Talley doing the fair Cons: -No swing tower ride -No Wisdom, Mack, Reverchon, or Bertazzon Himalaya -No Spinning Mouse Coaster -No Space Roller (Space Roller is an independent ride so it could end up showing up though) -No swinging ship ride -No swinging pendulum ride like a Fire Ball or a Freak Out or a Street Fighter -No Larson Looper (although I will say AoA has not used theirs since a man got electrocuted setting theirs up at the Delta Fair in 2016) -No A.R.M. Ali Baba-style ride -No Cliff Hanger So you get the point. They won't be as good as AoA was. What are your thoughts on them doing the midway? The Ohio State Fair usually has a midway of 65-70 rides... usually half of them are booked in from elsewhere, so many more of the "cons" rides you list were not even owned by A of A... This year, the Swing Ride was booked in by Strates, the Space Roller (as mentioned), the Ali Baba was by Strates, The Swinging ship was from someone else as well as the Cliffhanger and the brand-new Spider was booked in through Poor Jacks. I think A of A can still book out their crazy mouse coaster... they set it up at the IX indoor amusement park, and who knows, even though A of A isn't the main contractor, it doesn't mean they won't be asked to supply some rides. My freinds company gets asked a lot, but his problem is help... he can't find enough people to run the rides (a growing problem in the industry)... so he won't show up. Also, Talley DOES own a KMG Fireball called "The Beast", but I seriously doubt it will show up. There were a total of 5 different companies that bid on the contract including Belle City and A of A. (despite the accident, A of A was still in the top 3 running) Bell City, which provides a good amount of the rides (Sky Wheel, Scorpion, scooter, Rock N Roll Music Express) were not in the running, but I don't know if that means they will or will not provide anything in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdcfan88 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 ^Also not killing their guests would be an improvement. And we have a winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkFunk Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 AoA booked in a lot of stuff and I'm sure so will Talley. My hope is that I get enough new to me stuff to justify going for the first time in 4-5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Pros:-A Zyklon coaster I'm so confused right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeJebba Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 It would be great if Wade did the OSF, but they don't have room on the schedule, since their Unit 1 is in MO at the time, their Unit 2 is at/leaving DE, and the Unit 3 is in MI. I think Floyd will still book in their Disk'O and Space Roller, and D&J will still probably book in their Pharaoh's Fury, Zero Gravity, and Screamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeJebba Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 So Talley Amusements recently signed on to do the Ohio State Fair. When I found out about it on MCW, I looked on Talley's website to see what all rides they have, and it wasn't a BAD selection, however, AoA is far superior. I will be listing the pros and cons of Talley doing the fair Cons: -No swing tower ride -No Wisdom, Mack, Reverchon, or Bertazzon Himalaya -No Spinning Mouse Coaster -No Space Roller (Space Roller is an independent ride so it could end up showing up though) -No swinging ship ride -No swinging pendulum ride like a Fire Ball or a Freak Out or a Street Fighter -No Larson Looper (although I will say AoA has not used theirs since a man got electrocuted setting theirs up at the Delta Fair in 2016) -No A.R.M. Ali Baba-style ride -No Cliff Hanger So you get the point. They won't be as good as AoA was. What are your thoughts on them doing the midway? The Ohio State Fair usually has a midway of 65-70 rides... usually half of them are booked in from elsewhere, so many more of the "cons" rides you list were not even owned by A of A... This year, the Swing Ride was booked in by Strates, the Space Roller (as mentioned), the Ali Baba was by Strates, The Swinging ship was from someone else as well as the Cliffhanger and the brand-new Spider was booked in through Poor Jacks. I think A of A can still book out their crazy mouse coaster... they set it up at the IX indoor amusement park, and who knows, even though A of A isn't the main contractor, it doesn't mean they won't be asked to supply some rides. My freinds company gets asked a lot, but his problem is help... he can't find enough people to run the rides (a growing problem in the industry)... so he won't show up. Also, Talley DOES own a KMG Fireball called "The Beast", but I seriously doubt it will show up. There were a total of 5 different companies that bid on the contract including Belle City and A of A. (despite the accident, A of A was still in the top 3 running) Bell City, which provides a good amount of the rides (Sky Wheel, Scorpion, scooter, Rock N Roll Music Express) were not in the running, but I don't know if that means they will or will not provide anything in 2019. The Cliffhanger wasn't booked in I don't think. AoA owns a Cliffhanger and they also own a Vertigo swing tower but im unsure if they brought it last time or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeJebba Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 Well Wade has brought their KMG Fire Ball back out, so other shows might do so as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rai Fox Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Well Wade has brought their KMG Fire Ball back out, so other shows might do so as well. I'm sure they will, but I'd be pretty shocked if anyone did at this fair, at least any time in the near future. Can you imagine how anyone that saw the accident last year would take that? Especially since quite a few of the people there would have a rumor started within the hour that it was the exact same ride... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeJebba Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 Well Wade has brought their KMG Fire Ball back out, so other shows might do so as well. I'm sure they will, but I'd be pretty shocked if anyone did at this fair, at least any time in the near future. Can you imagine how anyone that saw the accident last year would take that? Especially since quite a few of the people there would have a rumor started within the hour that it was the exact same ride... People wouldn't believe them if there was a rumor, since there is video footage of what the model looks like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterguy21 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Well Wade has brought their KMG Fire Ball back out, so other shows might do so as well. I'm sure they will, but I'd be pretty shocked if anyone did at this fair, at least any time in the near future. Can you imagine how anyone that saw the accident last year would take that? Especially since quite a few of the people there would have a rumor started within the hour that it was the exact same ride... People wouldn't believe them if there was a rumor, since there is video footage of what the model looks like Never underestimate how human gossip works! People could still spread it and numerous others would believe it. Then, when someone points something factual out, there will be a rebuttal of "its just painted different" or 'they made some changes to it". I've seen it numerous places and it could also happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeJebba Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 Well Wade has brought their KMG Fire Ball back out, so other shows might do so as well. I'm sure they will, but I'd be pretty shocked if anyone did at this fair, at least any time in the near future. Can you imagine how anyone that saw the accident last year would take that? Especially since quite a few of the people there would have a rumor started within the hour that it was the exact same ride... People wouldn't believe them if there was a rumor, since there is video footage of what the model looks like Never underestimate how human gossip works! People could still spread it and numerous others would believe it. Then, when someone points something factual out, there will be a rebuttal of "its just painted different" or 'they made some changes to it". I've seen it numerous places and it could also happen here. Yeah but the owner of it is still different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Serious question: Have you encountered other humans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Serious question: Have you encountered other humans? Based on his posts...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytterbiumanalyst Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Serious question: Have you encountered other humans? Based on his posts...no. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 People wouldn't believe them if there was a rumor, since there is video footage of what the model looks like no one remembers the ride in the video. . they just remember a "swinging claw ride" broke and some people died. I suspect anything that looks even slightly similar to it won't go on a tour circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Peck Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 The Cliffhanger wasn't booked in I don't think. AoA owns a Cliffhanger and they also own a Vertigo swing tower but im unsure if they brought it last time or not You may be right on that one... I think at one time they booked in Bates Cliffhanger, so I may be thinking of that. The Vertigo Swingtower had shown up this year, (along with the Scorpion, Disk-O and one other ride) but it got red tagged... so they couldn't put it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeJebba Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 The Cliffhanger wasn't booked in I don't think. AoA owns a Cliffhanger and they also own a Vertigo swing tower but im unsure if they brought it last time or not You may be right on that one... I think at one time they booked in Bates Cliffhanger, so I may be thinking of that. The Vertigo Swingtower had shown up this year, (along with the Scorpion, Disk-O and one other ride) but it got red tagged... so they couldn't put it up. Oh. I was wondering where it was, but yes they did book in Bates’ Cliffhanger from 2009-2012 Also we’re Disk’O and Scorpion set up? I don’t remember if they were there or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Peck Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 ^ No, neither of them were up. (no Disk-o, Scorpion, or Vertigo and one other ride -Bonzi maybe?-) I think that's why they booked in Poor Jacks Black Widow at the last minute. Pretty disappointing midway this year, but attendance was almost up to record levels which proved that the fair is extremely popular even without a stellar midway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeJebba Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 ^ No, neither of them were up. (no Disk-o, Scorpion, or Vertigo and one other ride -Bonzi maybe?-) I think that's why they booked in Poor Jacks Black Widow at the last minute. Pretty disappointing midway this year, but attendance was almost up to record levels which proved that the fair is extremely popular even without a stellar midway. I think AoA replaced the Banzai with their new Skyfall ride which is a Kamikaze model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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