incredicoaster Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 has anyone ridden this coaster? have more info of it? Because this coaster looks rather interesting. http://www.rcdb.com/ig1357.htm?picture=4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haydawg149 Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 yea, its in Taiwan, and its almost a complete waste of time, i mean the drop is kewl and ll, but the rest is just dumb . . . the Vertical drop is the best part, and you feel like the brake holding the train on the switch track is gonna give at any moment . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillMontu Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 It's a Vekoma, and we all love Vekoma rides 'nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Eh, looks interesting. It is just a cheap attempt at a dive machine. They don't have the technology to actually pull it off so they did this. But yeah, it's a Vekoma - that's all I need to know. Â Jay "Although I actually really like Boomerangs " Willis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incredicoaster Posted October 14, 2005 Author Share Posted October 14, 2005 It's a Vekoma, and we all love Vekoma rides 'nuff said HA! good joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_Hollibone Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 The version on RCT3 looks much more interesting than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imhotep Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Eh, looks interesting. It is just a cheap attempt at a dive machine. They don't have the technology to actually pull it off so they did this. But yeah, it's a Vekoma - that's all I need to know. Jay "Although I actually really like Boomerangs " Willis  Um, you are saying Vekoma didnt have the technology to pull off holding the coaster train at the top of the drop.. So instead they engineered a big peice of tilting track instead? Yup, Vekoma definately lacked in the technology department on this one.  I saw an onride photo of this, and to be fair, it looked pretty freaky. I would love to experience the tilt feeling. Maybe Vekoma can step up their game and adapt their newer 'smoother' track to the tilt coaster.  Now if they would only build on of their 'Thrill Lift' coasters!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I don't know. It's not really all that advanced. It is basically the same kind of thing that they used back in the day. It isn't really anything special or more advanced from what they did with their older rides. It's like a boomerang technology. It is a little more advanced considering the first piece tilts like it does, but nothing really past that. It is nothing that really blows me away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterFanatic Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I remember seeing the renderings back in the day, and the fact that they built one is enough to scare the s**t out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phazan Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 just the fact that it is a vekoma doesnt mean that it is a bad idea, or that it sucks, or that it is a waste of money. give them credit once and a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Gumball Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I remember watching the Tilt Coaster's animation on Vekoma's website a while back (before G-Max was built) and I thought it was really sweet. I still wouldn't mind riding it today. Vekoma comes up with some brilliant ideas but kinda need to work on executing them successfully/smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I wouldn't mind riding it. Just because it is a Vekoma doesn't mean that I'm writing it off. However, based on their track record it doesn't look too promising. Don't they know that most of their coasters are really rough? I mean really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowfanman Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I am sure they do....they just dont know that the world is full of wimps. Â Â The tilt coaster, with a better layout, offers an extremely promising feature--an improvement over the drop coasters, if fine-tuned. Think about it--the drop expirence is completely different, depending on where you sit. As the tilting takes place, if you are in the front, you will fall forward, while the back will go flying up and out. Â I wouldn't mind riding one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Hey now, I'm no wimp. I really like some Vekoma coasters, but some are just bad. I don't mind a little bit of roughness. I actually found the boomerang at Lake Compounce to be a little too smooth. I was kind of hoping to get bounced around a little more. It was kind of odd, but I was amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenDen Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 At the last AAIAAAAPIAAAIAA whatever that convention is.... didn't numerous companies have concepts of this... And Vekoma is the only one to pull it off so far, I think thats a feat. Â Still a Vekoma Virgin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canobie Fan Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 IAAPA? Â I know GIO had a cooler tilt coaster that would also spin the track... so not only would the track tilt to 95* (yes.. past vert..) it would also turn the track 90* to the left and drop into a loop.. There is a video of the model somewhere online... Â Edit... found a photo of gios.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekRx Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 This is the one coaster I'd actually be scared to ride (I'd ride it, but would settle all debts, get my will established, etc before getting the credit). Even with 2 "failsafes" this is Vekoma we're talking about. I still remember the talks of "oh Deja Vu doesn't need a catwalk in the boomerang, it won't ever valley there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Even with 2 "failsafes" this is Vekoma we're talking about  What?! So just because Vekoma rides are rattly along the track, the company are also presumed to be incompetent at installing any sort of safety mechanics?! :?  That's strange. I mean, I've never heard of the tilt coaster falling off too early.. Maybe I just coincidently forgot to buy my newspaper, or watch the News on those countless many days where 30 people crashed to their doom at a theme park  At least stick to complaining about faults with their products that actually exist!  I greatly admire Vekoma for the way they strive to come up with something new. They aren't just recycling old and tested ideas, they are constantly revising their inventions, sitting down, thinking about it some more "Okay, we've done that. Now what can we do to make something more fun?" You would never see BaM doing anything remotely innovative!  Cerb- At least they understand the importance of being original! -erus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbordisux Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 I always forget about this coaster, but I definitely think it's #1 on my "coasters I'm dying to ride" list. Â "X" is #2 - even if the ride experience isn't all that great, I'm very into the technology and uniqueness of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 It would be a real stretch to call Vekoma incompetent or claim their rides are unsafe; they have a pretty good safety record. Some of their rides may be rough, but that has nothing to do with the structural integrity of what they build. Disney seems to like their work; I doubt they would work with them if they were technically incompetent or built unsafe rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekRx Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 What?! So just because Vekoma rides are rattly along the track, the company are also presumed to be incompetent at installing any sort of safety mechanics?!  That's strange. I mean, I've never heard of the tilt coaster falling off too early.. Maybe I just coincidently forgot to buy my newspaper, or watch the News on those countless many days where 30 people crashed to their doom at a theme park  At least stick to complaining about faults with their products that actually exist!   Where exactly did I write that it crashes all the time and kills everyone in Taiwan, old chap? Apparently its lost in translating English to English much like "bandwidth thievery". I simply said I would actually be scared on the ride. Kinda like how if I ride any Intamin Rocket Coaster, I hope the cable doesn't fray and I end up with metal shards in my face. :o  Just because it hasn't come off the track yet, doesn't mean it never will. I know many instances where boomerangs brakes failed, thus ending the ride saddled in the actual boomerang element on several different coasters. Its happened on their Invertigos too, as well as the Super Boomerangs. Whose to say the brakes won't fail on the Tilt coaster and that maybe the cable that acts as a second failsafe is actually not strong enough to hold it. Heck, maybe the park hasn't been keeping up on its maintenance either!  Have you looked into the problems Vekoma has had over the past several years, such as the hairline fractures on the Deja Vu trains, the accident on one of them during its initial testing, how they weren't going to be build with catwalks because the engineers *KNEW* they'd never be able to saddle 120 feet off the ground, or how about the redesign to the SLC restraints because they left people in even worse pain than the current ones. You can praise Vekoma all you want, but until they have a safety record of 100%, I have every right to be a little shaky about wanting to get on one of their rides that actually can LEAVE the track if something happened.  Not that any of the other manufacturers are safer, but they're smart enough not to even risk it if it ever did malfunction or break.  As for why Disney likes Vekoma so much, thats a totally different story; mainly cost, Disney's input, and Vekoma's willingness to bend to Disney's every need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chauncey Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Just because it hasn't come off the track yet, doesn't mean it never will. I know many instances where boomerangs brakes failed, thus ending the ride saddled in the actual boomerang element on several different coasters. Its happened on their Invertigos too, as well as the Super Boomerangs. Whose to say the brakes won't fail on the Tilt coaster and that maybe the cable that acts as a second failsafe is actually not strong enough to hold it. Heck, maybe the park hasn't been keeping up on its maintenance either! Â Actually, the cable isn't the redundant failsafe, it's the main brake. There's another redundant failsafe, forgot what it was, but it truly is fail-safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboy Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 This discussion is very 4 years ago. If there was even a remote chance of the train releasing prematurely, the ride wouldn't be in operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekRx Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Actually, the cable isn't the redundant failsafe, it's the main brake. There's another redundant failsafe, forgot what it was, but it truly is fail-safe. Â OK, so there aren't brakes holding it in place, but even still, this "true" failsafe as described on RCDB doesn't sound that comforting. How it works: After the train reaches the end of the horizontal tilt segment, a hook grabs the rear car of the train. This holds the train in place during the tilting. As a safety precaution, a large block of steel at the front of the tilt segment prevents the train from rolling off the end should the hook fail. After the tilt segment is vertical and inline with the vertical drop, the block is pulled away and the hook is released. Â Maybe actually seeing it in action or pictures would be a little better, but what sounds like a little steel block holding a giant train weighing tons doesn't really get my hopes up. Â It doesn't really matter to me though, I don't think I'll ever go to Taiwan, and if I ever do it'll be at least 15 years away and this coaster will probably be long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboy Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 Do you think they installed the block of steel as a failsafe on the ride without checking to see if it would work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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