GwaziBSRider1 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 ^ I completely agree. The corkscrews are a little tight, but they don't look that terrible. That entrance is hurting my neck just looking at it.
HAZE Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I found the RCDB entry for the triple corkscrew coaster: http://rcdb.com/12207.htm This was not the first ride to have three corkscrews in a row. Arrow actually made a ride with a triple corkscrew a while back. Obviously it was much better and more innovative than anything the China Workers could build...
gerstlaueringvar Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I don't think t's the same as the one in the previous page. The exit of the corkscrews of this one is fine. The entrance, however... Yes it is the same one. The location on this page's photos is Zhipao's test yard. They moved it to the buyer's park and changed to four car trains.
KingRCT3 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Wow, so they modified the last corkscrew in between? Normal looking. Flattened and weird exit.
scbt Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 That looks absolutely terrifying. I would love to see a POV of that but would feel bad for the poor sap who has to film it.
viking86 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 That looks absolutely terrifying. I would love to see a POV of that but would feel bad for the poor sap who has to film it. Well, there is always the option of a mounted camera. But yes, it looks terrifying indeed! One thing that boggles my mind is why are they copying a coaster style from the 70's/80's? I can understand that B&M style track can be tricky to manufacture, but why not copy something at least a little more modern??
HAZE Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 If that's what it takes to prevent the train from stalling, so be it.
Mater Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I think it's so cool they run their star flyers seatless. They really think outside the box over in that country.
HAZE Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 I think it's so cool they run their star flyers seatless. They really think outside the box over in that country. I'm guessing they will simply hang the riders by their ankles?
gerstlaueringvar Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Wow, so they modified the last corkscrew in between? Normal looking. Flattened and weird exit. Not very sure, the support and the last Corkscrew does look different. But the prototype was said to have a lot of modifications so this might be one of the results. The first drop's shape also looks different.
HAZE Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Wow, so they modified the last corkscrew in between? Normal looking. Flattened and weird exit. Not very sure, the support and the last Corkscrew does look different. But the prototype was said to have a lot of modifications so this might be one of the results. The first drop's shape also looks different. Triple Corkscrews are not a bad idea. Arrow installed Triple Corkscrews on a coaster that is still operating quite well. It BECOMES a bad idea when you have to flatten the last corkscrew to prevent the too-short train from stalling.
gerstlaueringvar Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 One thing I don't understand is, why can these companies survive in China? This is already some major design failure but the park isn't asking for refund or sue them at all! Seems like KumbaK completely lost their business in full coaster design because of Vliegende Hollander's flaws, I really wish we can trade this company's bankruptcy for KumbaK's second chance.
HAZE Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 One thing I don't understand is, why can these companies survive in China? This is already some major design failure but the park isn't asking for refund or sue them at all! Seems like KumbaK completely lost their business in full coaster design because of Vliegende Hollander's flaws, I really wish we can trade this company's bankruptcy for KumbaK's second chance. It's called Planned Economy. This is due to the country's communist government. This regime requires the companies to stay in business no matter what.
gerstlaueringvar Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 ^ It's not like that. Zhipao isn't owned by the government so they are on their own. Zhongye on the other hand, is the only one applies to the case you described. Parks just don't realize how serious design flaws can be. They chose to tolerate instead of fight for their legal right so bad companies would always stay bad.
HAZE Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 ^ It's not like that. Zhipao isn't owned by the government so they are on their own. Zhongye on the other hand, is the only one applies to the case you described. Parks just don't realize how serious design flaws can be. They chose to tolerate instead of fight for their legal right so bad companies would always stay bad. Ah, I see
Gutterflower Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Came across this weird musical lift hill at Victory Kingdom on my recent trip to China. None of the other GH spinners did this so no idea whats going on.
MisterP Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 Are these coasters weird like the Chinese guy in Mike's room?
Gutterflower Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Hey Just had a quick look back at what i missed in this thread while I was away and there's a bit of misinformation a few pages back. The coaster with the crazy corkscrew exit is not the triple corkscrew coaster. It is a separate coaster with only 4 inversions Triple Corkscrew Coaster is at Elm Creek Park in Yulin And the crazy corkscrew exit is at Taolin Happy World Both are built by Zhipao though.
Projektion Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 it's not just the corkscrew, what's up with those loops.
GCI Wooden Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Especially in the second picture, that is a really demented loop. It looks really painful. Actually, the entire coaster looks really painful, both of them.
gerstlaueringvar Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Sorry for the misleading info guys, I really think I need to do some research about this company. Right now all I know is a bunch of people from Zhongye formed this company and made horrible coasters. That loops, that pre-drop, that turn before the corkscrews It would be really interesting to ride one of these coasters. Everything look so messed up and poorly designed but I would definitely try it out if I'm close to one of them. The line at the upper right of the second photo actually says "Zhipao rides are the best in the world". Seriously...
hey...hey Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 The second one is really messed. From the back to back loops that sort of look like a batwing with a different entrance and exit. To the non-banked turn after the loops, and then the weird corkscrews. I am just glad the engineers are a little better with the mainstream companies (Arrow, B&M, etc)
HAZE Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 What shall we name the deformed corkscrew? http://themeparkreview.com/forum/images/smilies/headbash_119.gif
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