Her0ofLime Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 No your right. I do think that Vipers layout is well designed, but GASM and Shockwave did have a lot of wasted space inside.... But then again, a compact Arrow means only one thing .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
australianalex Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 It's not so much a layout thing, but more an odd track. Has anyone else noticed that a number of Arrow's later coasters have a different track design to their earlier models? The ties are more rounded than the usual Arrow track. Small difference, I know, but I found it odd. Was it a track design that Arrow decided to test in their later coasters? Coasters I've noticed with this different track are Tenessee Tornado, Pepsi Max Big One, Desperado and an Arrow looper in Kuwait. Normal track: Varient track: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinTheAttendant Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 ^I have noticed that. I always attributed it to the company evolving, and the design was used to make the Tennessee Tornado more acrobatic than a conventional Arrow looper, but then that might have also been due to advanced technology in designing newer coasters as well. I never really questioned it anyway because I thought it looked sleeker And while we're on the subject of strange coaster tracks, I might as well throw in Canyon Blaster at the Great Escape. The track shape switches several times throughout the ride. I'm guessing that those pieces are replacement parts for when the coaster was relocated, but again, I never really thought to question it. There's the traditional track shape with the sharp, 90 degree edges to the braces Then there's the newer looking track with the rounded edges australianalex pointed out And then there's whatever this thing is... (I know it's used for brakes, but trust me, it looks really out of place in person) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her0ofLime Posted October 20, 2012 Author Share Posted October 20, 2012 SO now the topic has changed, I guess we just ran out of strange layouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Back on topic - I've always thought that Magic Mountain's Ninja was weird, even though it's partially due to its location in the park... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her0ofLime Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Back on topic - I've always thought that Magic Mountain's Ninja was weird, even though it's partially due to its location in the park... 24 circles later, a lift hill to the station.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
australianalex Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Sorry I went a bit off topic, it was just something I noticed and I didn't want to create a whole new thread about it haha. But on topic, I've always found the layout of Huracan at Belantis very odd. It's like Gerstlauer tried to make a B&M-like layout with the Cobra Roll and Interlocking Corkscrews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her0ofLime Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 ^ Why do all Euro-fighters look the same? Same lift, same drop, same track style, it took a few seconds for me to realize that it wasn't Dare Devil Dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
australianalex Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 ^ Erm, the vertical lift and beyond vertical drop is the signature element for Eurofighters. Also, the track type is the same as there's no reason to change it. All of B&M's tracks are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her0ofLime Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 ^ Still, you could make the drop a little bit steeper to make a difference, I forgot to say that alot of the elements are repeated, and I must say, the B&M likeness is a good touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Mutts Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I think Star Jet that was was at Casino Pier had a odd layout (a wild mouse like turn while still moving at a decent speed, Ow!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolliger&Mabillard Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I still don't like how UNsteep Silver Bullet's first drop is. The rest of the layout IMO is really good...but the first drop? I've seen Wheelchair ramps steeper than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougMJr Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 Manhatten Express's layout is strange. I understand it is because it is built around a casino but still. It tries to be a hyper, it tries to be a looper, and does neither well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayTheGForceBeWithYou Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 It tries to be a hyper, it tries to be a looper, and does neither well. It's a TOGO. What did you expect? >inb4 Bandit and the insane Ultra Twister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her0ofLime Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 I still don't like how UNsteep Silver Bullet's first drop is. The rest of the layout IMO is really good...but the first drop? I've seen Wheelchair ramps steeper than that. I and everybody has to agree with you on that one, That is ridiculously UNsteep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I305KD Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Ninja at SFOG and Goudurix at Parc Asterix have awkward and painful layouts. That butterfly loop looks crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Ninja at SFOG and Goudurix at Parc Asterix have awkward and painful layouts. That butterfly loop looks crazy. So, you say that they HAVE painful layouts, then you say that the Butterfly loop LOOKS insane... A very strange layout that I particularly like is that of the Hersheypark Great Bear. It's not because of the pre-drop spiral, or the strategically-constructed supports, but because of the maneuvering after the zero-G roll. You get a very interesting perspective of it while standing in Sooperdooperlooper's queue. I've never ridden Manhattan Express, but it seems like it would be a great coaster if it wasn't manufactured by TOGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Mutts Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Every coaster at Hokkaido Greenland is just odd. Their Senyo Arrow Lopping coaster knock off try's so hard to be an Arrow but fails in the fact that the whole ride looks like it was designed in RCT3. GO-ON is just has an odd name and also looks like it was designed in RCT3 by a 8 year old GP. And finally Torokko Coaster doesn't do much and is the only coaster I know of that uses conveyor belt as a lift hill and brake system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 A very strange layout that I particularly like is that of the Hersheypark Great Bear...because of the maneuvering after the zero-G roll. You get a very interesting perspective of it while standing in Sooperdooperlooper's queue. I've never ridden Manhattan Express, but it seems like it would be a great coaster if it wasn't manufactured by TOGO. Completely agree with both of these. That little section is the coolest part about Great Bear and I've always thought Manhattan Express has a great-looking layout; it just doesn't ride well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixflagsgreatadven Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Some that come to mind: -Great Bear -Storm Runner -Ninja (SFOG) -Anaconda at KD -Skull Mtn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her0ofLime Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 ^ All of those don't seem to be very strange except Ninja and Stormrunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I305KD Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Ninja at SFOG and Goudurix at Parc Asterix have awkward and painful layouts. That butterfly loop looks crazy. So, you say that they HAVE painful layouts, then you say that the Butterfly loop LOOKS insane... A very strange layout that I particularly like is that of the Hersheypark Great Bear. It's not because of the pre-drop spiral, or the strategically-constructed supports, but because of the maneuvering after the zero-G roll. You get a very interesting perspective of it while standing in Sooperdooperlooper's queue. I've never ridden Manhattan Express, but it seems like it would be a great coaster if it wasn't manufactured by TOGO. Yes they have painful looking layouts and the Butterfly Loop looks insanely painful. That's what I was trying to point out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her0ofLime Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 ^ Then you probably should've said this: Ninja at SFOG and Goudurix at Parc Asterix have awkward and painful layouts. That butterfly loop looks insanely painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I305KD Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Alright, alright, I worded it wrong. I meant they look insanely painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Has anyone mentioned dragon mountain yet? I get the impression they started with the concept of the "worlds largest coaster" and worked backwards from there but ran out of money half way through. Fun ride, but definitely in more of a WTF?!? way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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