verticalzero Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Why does the UK suffer from the lack of wooden roller coasters, the only decent 3 are Wild Mouse, Grand National and Megafobia. Why can't Thorpe Park build an Out-n-Back as they have the height for one. Get rid of "Loggers Leap" and build a woodie over the water with some nice night lighting. This really annoys me that UK coaster followers have to go beyond our shores to find a decent wood ride, e.g. Parc Astreix and Heide-Park Good Luck Alton Towers on your Megafobia 2 in 2008, your have to get past the locals 1st which will not be easy. I hope in the next few years the Parks here will look at the amazing woodies in the US and build some world class woodies for us in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDragon Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 yeah... Thorpe Farm may have a woodie (its being demolished), but there have been rumours that a (launched?) flyer will be built which will rival Tatsu either way its gonna be good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niiicolaaah Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Ummmm, don't complain! People have to travel as far as you for good wood everywhere! Take, for example, me. I have Silver Comet at my doorstep, but besides that the closest decent woodie Is a 5 hour drive to Kennywood. The grass is always greener... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDragon Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Ummmm, don't complain! People have to travel as far as you for good wood everywhere! Take, for example, me. I have Silver Comet at my doorstep, but besides that the closest decent woodie Is a 5 hour drive to Kennywood. The grass is always greener... try a 7 hour drive to BPB... not nice... not nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillMontu Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 You've got a better set of woodies than what we have in Florida, and Balder is only a short flight away. Wood mice are extremely rare, and you guys have (or at least had) two of them. Also, can one of our nice moderators move this to the correct forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calaway Park Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Look at Canada. Now do you feel so bad? We have Monstre, that's the only good woodie here, and the trains suck so it's rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niiicolaaah Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 try a 7 hour drive to BPB... not nice... not nice... I'm a 7 hour FLIGHT away from Blackpool!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Insane Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Why does the UK suffer from the lack of wooden roller coasters, the only decent 3 are Wild Mouse, Grand National and Megafobia. Don't the Big Dipper and Rollercoaster count? They also very good Get rid of "Loggers Leap" and build a woodie over the water with some nice night lighting. Thorpe cannot support a fully wooden rollercoaster due to the structure of land, so the only woddie we would get I gusse is an hybrid. Plus Loggers is an good log flume also in that area is were the 2008/9 coaster will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divv3k Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I imagine that if Thorpe REALLY wanted to build a woodie then they'd find a way to do it. Have these problems with the land prohibiting a woodie ever been confirmed by anyone official from the park. I dunno, I imagine if Alton's woodie is a resounding success then Tussauds will probably put one up in Thorpe too. It's seems to be the way Tussauds are going these days with those two parks. (I.e. Nemesis: Inferno following Nemesis, Stealth following Rita.) Even if Thorpe's 2009 ride isn't a flyer I wouldn't put it past Thorpe getting a woodie. Also, earlier this year Flamingoland confirmed they'd be getting a woodie in 2008 so we've got that and Alton's to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGM Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Things are actually looking pretty good here in the UK in terms of woodies for the next few years. We have the Alton Towers woodie in the pipeline (likely to be an Intamin) and a Vekoma woodie for Flamingoland both planned for 2008. I can see a few other UK parks getting woodies in the near future as well. Plus, as stated above we do have BPPB which has the highest count of woodies in the world and Megaphobia, so we don't do too badly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divv3k Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 ^ It's maybe a presumptive to say that Intamin and Vekoma respectively will be manufacturing those woodies. I know for sure that Flamingoland were looking at different manufacturers earlier this year and weren't ruling anyone out. Whilst Intamin seems like a natural choice for Alton I wouldn't say it's a sure thing. GCI for example might fit the profile of what they're looking for better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGM Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'm pretty sure that the FL woodie was confirmed to be a Vekoma for 2007 but it was moved back a year. As for the AT woodie, I think that they will go with Intamin because of Rita and Stealth, because Wardley likes Intamin woodies and it was going to be the coaster system used for the cross valley woodie, because Intamin is Europe based and is closer to home and because Intamin woodies have better capacity than GCI. Of course the other possibility is that it could be a Gravity Group woodie but I doubt this because they don't plan to enter the European market just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas2 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 You have no reason to complain. We in Belgium only got 1 wooden coaster. Now that's bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollermonkey Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 The UK has 11 of the 33 European wood coasters. I wouldn't consider that a bad share. There might be 115 woodies in the US, but you might say that we have a little more room to put them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 You've got a better set of woodies than what we have in Florida Quoted for the truth. Florida wood; Dania Beach Hurricane- good wood, just not at a major park. Starliner- lol, in pieces at a bankrupt park. Gwazi- GCI woodies that became pure crap in 2001. Triple Hurricane- eh, junior woodie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'll talk about Thorpe Park for a bit beacuse i kinow next to nothing about the other parks! (feel free not to read this as it might get a little boring). Going back to the start of the topic, the park have stated a "true" woodie has a sturcture too dense for the park, so one can't be instaled. I also remember something about the ground not being right but that might be BS. Thorpe's MTDP (Medium Term Development Plan), although not very accurate, did confim that a woodie would not be suitable, a hybid might work though, but some don't think they're really woodies. I don't know where you got the idea of a launched flyer from (someone said it on the last page) but that was never considered. B&M don't like launches anyway and there's not much point with Stealth having another launched coaster regardless of the fact thats it would be a flyer. Thorpe farm can't be built on because it's too near to a school and the general thorpe village. I also think that there are some listed buildings on the site but that wouldn't stop them if they did build it there. Regarding intamin doing a woodie at AT because tussauds have bought many coasters off them, i'm not so sure. Every intamin coaster tussads have bought has had problems (less so colossus) so i don't think intamin are in the good books, but i wouldn't mind a plug and play anyway I'm bored of typing now (and you're probably bored of reading), so i'll stop. Dave "basically thorpe aren't getting a woodie" Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 i guess Japan does not suffer from lack O' woodies since it's got no less than 5, Regina first, White Canyon second, Jupiter third, White Cyclone fourth, Elf fifth. we've got lotsa number of 6 woodies if Aska was still there in Nara Dream. too bad its park closed down..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aflack Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I'm pretty sure the reason Intamin will be chosen for the AT wooden coaster is because it is quieter than the other makes. I would expect to see a GCI or GG at Flamingoland but thats only a guess. I am only guessing at this but I don't think GCI or GG would build more than 2 or 3 coasters a year and in 2008 tripsville is getting a GG wooden coaster and I thought Dorney Park was recieve a GCI so I guess that means either make could be built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr.gumbo Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 We dont have a lack of woodies and the ones we do have are mostly top 50 woodies (at least) And if people are compairing us with other countrys, were tiny compair to some of them! But more woodies would do just fine especially at Flamingoland because I live near there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra_roll06 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I'm just praying that AT gets permission to build the woodie! i love wooden coaster and it would be a great addition to the park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPDave Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Werent they going to build it on the other side of the park (further from the ropers) and have it on a far smaller scale than the previous plan? And i though flamingoland were definately getting a GCI, obviously not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willski Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 were tiny compair to some of them! Haha, tiny woodie, haha. Lou, care to comment? Headline: UK Lacks Woodies Next Day's Headline: Pfizer sends 11 cargo ships of Viagra across North Atlantic Can't believe I was the first one immature enough to think of this, some people are obviously not on top of their game (oh another setup, someone just finish it!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sound Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Ummmm, don't complain! People have to travel as far as you for good wood everywhere! I agree. We have one reasonable Woodie in all of Australia! But do you see us complaining? I actually have to go on a 3 or so Hour Plane trip to go on a few ok Steel coasters! That's like, 2 days of driving. SO stop Complaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Haha, tiny woodie, haha. Lou, care to comment? No. As Chris says, 11 out of 33 in Europe isn't bad, it's just a shame they arent a little more evenly spaced over the country: 5 at BPB, 2 in Wales... Compared to the distribution in the US... Admittedly over there you often have far greater distances between parks because your stupid country is so damn huge (), but I'm not sure how it would work out as far as the ratio of woodies to mileage goes. According to rcdb, we've got 11 operating woodies, and 145 operating steel coasters, so only 7% of our coasters are wood. Compare that with the US, which has 115 woodies and 512 steel, meaning 18% of US coasters are wood... I'm talking about percentage of wood, God help me. But I'm sure you see my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verticalzero Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 I am very happy for Flamingoland and AT (if they get the green light) adding 2 woodies to the UK list, but: It's always the North of England, which gets the best of everything. The South suffers very badly; the only good thing, which the North has less of, is "summer sun". I've asked Paulton's Park if they can build a Family Size woodie for their next investment. TPDave - You said: the park has stated a "true" woodie has a sturcture too dense for the park. Is that on the lines of "Health and Safety"? I'm thinking on the lines of Megafobia but longer and 110ft high, no one can say that structure is "too dense". -------------------------------------------------------------- TP would probably worry about the "general public" complaining about the roughness of the track or being too fast, TP install a "trim" block, OHR on the trains. Why would someone not ride a "hybrid" woodie with a steel structure ? I class people who do that as "Rivet Counters", just like people who say "You can't paint a Preserved Diesel Loco in that colour, it never had the colour when in service with BR". It’s the 21st century, “wake up” to these people. These “Hybrid” coasters are classed as wood, the track and trains sit on wood. It's a good mixture to have both "wood" track and "steel" supports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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