S&S question

[coasterdude5]

I've been thinking, if a park had the money and the desire, could they go to S&S and request an Arrow-type looping coaster? I guess it would be more similar to Tennessee Tornado than the original classics, but since S&S has the rights to the Arrow products (if I understood right) then couldn't they do this?

[coaster1]

Give them enough money and they'll do anything, like most companies.

[Screamomatic]

They built Ejannenenka which is an Arrow invention, so I think they could build old shcool Arrow Loopers...

[SLUSHIE]

Well the answer is yes, but why.

 

They suck, why would you want them to build one.

[coasterdude5]

^Tennessee Tornado wasn't that bad.

[knottslover77]

I'm sure they can make them smooth like B&M sitdown loopers some how.I think there fun(I've only been on Viper,but I like it).

 

--Jay

[Jack57]

Give them enough money and they'll do anything, like most companies.

 

I have to agree with that, but what about a B&M woodie?

[kraxleRIDAH]

Walter Bolliger and Claude Mabillard specialize in the design of steel rides, not wood. That's where wood coaster companies come into picture.

 

^Tennessee Tornado wasn't that bad.

 

That's not the point. In this day and age where nearly every major park has some kind of looping coaster, a simple conventional coaster that goes upside-down a lot really doesn't cut it anymore. Especially with companies that sell those kind of coasters with a new twist on the concept (Floorless/stand-up trains), why would any park invest in an S&S/Arrow looper?

[niiicolaaah]

^What about Intamin or Vekoma, who go both ways?

[coasterdude5]

^^ Parks that are looking for a cheaper alternative. But I'm not sure if that would be cheaper.

[steel]

How about you scrap that idea and get them to make a suspended coaster instead.

 

I would love you forever.

[coaster1]

Again .. for the right price, the companies will do anything.

 

B&M did the "launch" even tho Walter was strongly against the non-conventional style, granted THEY didn't do the launch system. Also, they've created wooden rolling stock .. so right price, gets you whatever you want.

 

Money speaks and unless they have serious doubts and/or concerns, most will do whatever, or the business goes to those that will.

[pvcoasterguy]

^ And we all saw how Psuckclone turned out.

[Bk1870]

I'd like to see another one of these. Tennessee Tornado r0cks and is very smooth. I'd like to see where they can go with it.

[okinawaboy11]

^What about Intamin or Vekoma, who go both ways?

 

 

OH OH! Me too!

 

Anywho, the General Public will be attrachted to anything that goes upside down more than once and is faster than 35 MPH. The GP is rather stupid IMO. Not litterally but they don't ride knowing that its going to beat the crap out of you. They just ride the ride. Even if it is rough, people still ride it over. Mind Eraser, SFA, SUCKS, still uses all its switchbacks AND THEN some on busy summer days.

[Jew]

In this day and age where nearly every major park has some kind of looping coaster, a simple conventional coaster that goes upside-down a lot really doesn't cut it anymore. Especially with companies that sell those kind of coasters with a new twist on the concept (Floorless/stand-up trains), why would any park invest in an S&S/Arrow looper?

 

Why do parks still buy wooden coasters? I mean, a simple conventional coaster that doesn't even go upside-down can't possibly cut it anymore! Especially since nearly every major park has one of those too. Right? Or inverts (SLC's and/or B&M's)? Those things have been around for over 10 years...what an old and outdated gimmick! AND nearly every major park has one...

 

Every market is different. A new Arrow looping coaster in so-cal proves your point. That's a market where a new standard looper "wouldn't cut it." But there are plenty of parks that are far enough away from any similiar rides where an S&S/Arrow looper could be a sound investment if the price was right.

[rollermonkey]

Joey, you are so right. For example: DelGrosso's just bought a used Arrow corkscrew, how's that? In that market, it's the biggest thing for at least, what 75 or 100 miles?

[SpartanTS]

I wish S&S would build an air powered impulse coaster. Suspended trains would give it some great swinging action up twisted vertical towers.

 

Anyway, if S&S can build some 150ft loopers for under $10 million, they'll have some buyers.

 

To put things in perspective, Goliath at SFOG cost $23 million, TTD & MF cost $25 million. I'm sure S&S can low ball a little ($13-15 million) and still make a decent profit.