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Not sure what can be missed about the Jungleish Theming and Name of Cannibal.

Lagoon didn't share "Concept Art" or mere "Renderings," they are in fact what is being fabricated. I don't know what you would call them, but they are Engineering Plans, for lack of a better term.

Considering how many National and State Parks are between Las Vegas and Salt Lake, I agree!

Salt Lake? Salt Lake City? Amazing Micro Brews? It's not just a park in the middle of the desert. Don't forget to buy your "SL,UT" T Shirts! I still think Hoppers in Midvale and Red Rock (Multiple Locations) are the Best Micro Breweries and Pubs. Squatters and Bohemian aren't bad either.

Not trying to sound negative, but Bombora is a kiddie coaster. Totally different than a hyper coaster with a beyond vertical drop, three inversions, and an elevator lift hill. I do wish there was better concept art, though. Will the lift hill and drop be totally enclosed inside the tower, or will it be outside the tower? BomBora isn't your standard Family Coaster. It uses pipe and columns much larger than any other Family Coaster out there. It also pulls some good amount of Gs. Dal Freeman also Designed Magnum XL-200 and Many other projects with Arrow and Designed Wicked and BomBora for Lagoon. The only reason why Stengel get's the credit for Wicked is because Zierer was Lagoon's Partner to make it Happen. Lagoon and the Freed Family is Highly Regarded in the Industry. Lagoon even built most of Rattlesnake Rapids in 1996/1997. Intamin basically provided the Ride System (Boats, Motors, Conveyors, PLC Safety System, Pumps), so they've pretty much been doing a lot themselves for many years. Lagoon found the Right Engineering Partners Locally and in ART Engineering GmbH.

Down Boy! lol

It actually won't be. Hansa Park is building a beyond vertical drop at 235 (ish?) ft.Will of be steeper than 116 Degrees?

Here's a Link to the Stats Lagoon Provided the Local Media and LagoonisFun.com: http://www.lagoonisfun.com/showthread.php?tid=5095

Is it an elevator lift or vertical lift? It's a Vertical Elevator Lift similar to Divertical's.

Not at all, but you will see!

It's most common for links to be replaced than the whole length of a chain, unless as stated above.

^ That's very True, everyone pretty much owes Intamin, Premier, and InTraSys a debt of gratitude. Manufacturers pretty much wrangle up a group of suppliers to make a project happen.

I bet Hansa will have much better themeing, for sure. It just depends on when they are announced on which would be "better."Except nothing to us about Cannibal is a "Surprise" anymore.

I don't know about that. But now that you mentioned the drive tire launch I remembered (even though it might be a coincidence) it was just after that that B&M started using pairs of drive tires from their rides in a horizontal position instead of the vertical ones that intamin (for example) still uses. Not that it's very important, more of a curiosity. The drive tires are from another company. I remember someone saying that should that company ever go out of business, The Hulk would be in trouble...but since they buy the tires so frequently, theyre keeping them in steady business and its a moot point. Considering everyone pretty much uses SEW Drives, I doubt it would be that much of an issue. This may not be a widely known fact, but both Premier and Intamin buy their launch mechanics from Intrasys to this day. In fact, B&M's Thunderbird is being launched using Intrasys technology: http://www.intrasys-gmbh.com/ So like B&M, Intamin and Premier also had to find another company to do their launch systems. Most people assume that when a park buys a ride from someone like Intamin, B&M, Premier, etc, that the company does EVERYTHING on the ride, which is not the case. To simplify things, the ride manufacturers design and produce the ride, but many components come from several different vendors. There could be as many as 100 different vendors involved with supplying parts to a ride or a ride project, and it's the responsibility of a company like Intamin, B&M, and Premier to manage that process and make it all come together. Sometimes they work closely with the project managers at the park, sometimes they do it turn key. While a lot of companies DO manufacture their own track, trains, parts, etc, it's most certainly a misconception that ride companies do *everything* themselves, like designing or building launch systems. I think the answer to the question (this is my assumption) is that at the time, B&M was a much smaller company, already had a great reputation and product line-up WITHOUT having to add an additional vendor and project management to do a launch into their plans, so if a park wanted to do a launched coaster with them, the park would have to contract with that vendor themselves. IMO, there isn't any reason why a B&M couldn't be launched all these years, but maybe it just was that no other park wanted to take on the additional work of having to project manage the launch system, and it wasn't until recently that became an option that B&M offered in order to expand their product line? --Robb "I hope I've explained that somewhat correctly!" Alvey Wow that's very cool to know about Intradys, thanks for the info Not to mention Gerstlauer, MACK, Zierer, Art Engineering, S&S, Vekoma, Disney, etc. Pretty sure B&M has been using Switchable ECBs from InTraSys GmbH for a while as well.

"Facts" I'm only slightly kidding. I know things have leaked here and there but who's to know what is real and what it rumor? I appreciate the research but until there's an official announcement I take it with a grain of salt. Anyways, thanks for those pics! It looks basically untouched from my visit in July but you managed to poke around more than I did and found that tunnel section. Can't wait to see what they unveil! If only you could see what I've seen Kyle. _Koppen and RCF have seen it all too.

We've been following this project, including all construction, over on LagoonisFun for 2.5 years. These are the facts we know from several sources.

^ Chance Fabricated the Track and Columns as well. Lagoon wanted Vekoma to have The Bat Fabricated Locally (Probably by Intermountain Lift), but Vekoma said No I guess. At least they got the Actemium Safety System. )

Frontier City's "new" Chance Rides C.P. Huntington Locomotive appears to be CPH #241, built in 1991, that has been stored at Darien Lake since 1997.

I always thought that s and s made all the parts for the older arrow coasters. S&S does supply Spare Parts. Track Elements are not Parts. S&S may have fabricated the new track elements, but there were Track Elements in the yard at Intermountain Lift that did not appear to be for any of the Premier LSM Shuttles or Cannibal at Lagoon.

To answer your question seriously, my guess would be the S&S plant in Utah. I hear they still do a lot of work on the old Arrows. Can't imagine anywhere else it would come from...plus it's not all that far away. Yeah that would have had to come from S&S. They "are" Arrow Dynamics nowdays. Someone above mentioned that were glad to see Chaos being refurbed, and this for me is 2x as awesome. Very cool to see someone taking that kind of care for an old Arrow Looper, but Adventuredome has a well earned reputation for taking fantastic care of their rides. Intermountain Lift, Inc. In Springville, Utah has done work for Arrow and S&S, so they are the other possibility. In fact, I may have a photo of those track elements in the yard at Intermountain Lift back in June.

There's no new info or really any new pics we've been reporting on LagoonisFun.com since 2012. It does confirm that Lagoon received a height variance for 208 feet in 2012.

Interesting that Lagoon paid 2.79 Million for Spider in August 2002, and that price nearly doubled in 9 Years? Lagoon spent a total of 4 Million Dollars overall on Spider and most warehouses cost between $10 to $20 sq. ft. Laugh Trakk better be mind blowing if they are really spending $14 Million Dollars on it only.

They do not. They are trying to keep the place a family park, so no alcohol. Lagoon has a Beer License and serves beer on Catholic Day and any company that wants it served for their picnic. Kyle and everyone else, the "No Bags on the Coasters" Policy came about a couple years ago when a bag fell from a rider on Wicked and took out a couple LSM Motors on the Launch Tower causing several thousand dollars in damage and the ride to be down for over a week. Additionally, the Hat thing came about after a couple hats got caught in the Wheel Housings on Roller Coaster, Wild Mouse, Spider, and Fire Dragon, if I remember correctly, not to mention the suspending of operation for several minutes an hour to go out in the Ride Enclosures and get People's Crap. Also, Samurai is currently operating in a way that makes it a Kiddie Ride now compared to when it first opened, thanks to the constant overheating of the AC Motor and broken Air Hoses from operating it as intense as they were. I haven't heard anyone else complain about Jumping Dragon's Lap Bars, and I'm nearly 6ft tall, not to mention the Lap Bars allow the ride to restrain even the smallest rides and requireing there be no Minimum Height Requirement.

Didn't Skyline Park mention they intended to purchase Olympia Looping or something along those lines a while ago?

When there is a photo of the Mountings and Piers, you'll be able to nail down an actual Fabricator, but not neccesarily a ride manufacturer. The info is in the piers, NOT the Footing.