robbalvey Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Most parks really didn't have camera policies like they have today until about 2003. That's the year that I know there was quite a crack down on a lot of cameras. As cameras got smaller, it became more of an issue, and rules were created and more strictly enforced. There isn't a video we have put on our YouTube channel where we didn't have consent to film or post it. Edited February 19, 2013 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gforce1994 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Most parks really didn't have camera policies like they have today until about 2003. That's the year that I know there was quite a crack down on a lot of cameras. As cameras got smaller, it became more of an issue, and rules were created and more strictly enforced. There isn't a video we have put on our YouTube channel where we didn't have consent to film or post it. Thank you very much Mr. Alvey for clearing that up. I thought the no camera rule was always enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aceattack52 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I have though of taking my own POVs, but really I see no point. The only thing I would use them for is views on YouTube. There are already tons of POVs of any coaster there already. Plus on top of that, I would be competing with professionally done POVs, like the ones Robb makes, or like the ones Coaster Force makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I I would be competing with professionally done POVs, like the ones Robb makes, or like the ones Coaster Force makes. LOLing at your comment implying that CoasterForce does not make professionally done POVs! #Correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markysharky17 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I bought a shark pack and I put my iPod in it to get a good pov. Another thing people are starting to do is use those glasses that have the hidden cameras on them. I'm going to buy one of those later tonight. You could also use a watch with a camera on it for filming. Also if you have an IPhone you can buy a Mivue and you put your iPhone in it and it clamps it Doww real good. You should also know that the Mivue is a harness that goes around your chest. It's hand free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofpikk Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I got a problem here in the UK. I got all the bits (2 go pros w/ chest harness & wrist strap and of course duct tape) but they still wont let me film. I'm not sure if there are stricter policies to do with insurance etc. but I'd do anything other then pay alot extra to get a POV (preferably mounted). Any brits or people who have filmed in parks ran by merlin got any advice? I could really use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 ^ WTF??!?! You can't film at Merlin parks BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST THE RULES TO FILM!!! My advice to you is don't post again asking people for "advice" when you know you've been told no. Another post like this and you'll be banned from TPR forever. Let me make this perfectly clear - if a park says "No cameras allowed on a ride" you don't take your camera on the ride! How difficult is this to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 ^Ikr! I hate people who dont appreciate your awesome Pov's robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofpikk Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 My advice to you is don't post again asking people for "advice" when you know you've been told no. Another post like this and you'll be banned from TPR forever. I'm not sure if there are stricter policies to do with insurance etc. Sorry Robb! I didnt know about some of these policies! I'll try not to be so silly next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigaG Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 There are cameras (I have one but I don't think it works right anymore) like THIS- http://www.chucklohr.com/808/index.shtml They are disguised as key fobs, and are no more dangerous than your car keys. If you strapped one securely to your wrist, would a large park let you film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 ^Not if there rule is 'no filming'. Some parks have a rule no cameras, some parks have a rule no filming or recording. It doesn't matter what object your camera is hidden in. If the rules say no filming, recording, videography, photography, etc. you can't bring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigaG Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Out of curiosity, which smaller parks let you film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Out of curiosity, which smaller parks let you film? Knoebel's. Honestly, I don't keep a mental checklist of them because when we film we work with the parks so I don't have to worry about that. I will say that I know more parks ARE starting to allow chest mounted GoPros and Pivothead glasses. Edited May 26, 2013 by robbalvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GigaG Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Out of curiosity, which smaller parks let you film? Knoebel's. Honestly, I don't keep a mental checklist of them because when we film we work with the parks so I don't have to worry about that. I will say that I know more parks ARE starting to allow chest mounted GoPros and Pivothead glasses. Nice! I hope Six Flags and Cedar Fair parks will soon allow secure cameras (chest mounted GoPros and glasses). Of course, I'm in Ohio, so Knoebels is probably feasible to go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 CP was very strict about cameras on ride. I can see why... no need for you to film your own when you have Robb's fantastic HD ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 CP was very strict about cameras on ride. I can see why... no need for you to film your own when you have Robb's fantastic HD ones To be fair, Cedar Point supplies all the POVs we host on our site on DVDs. If the park can do a good enough job of supplying footage to us, I don't even need to shoot it myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropzonefan Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I understand what has been said here, but what I'm wondering is, if you do get permission from the right people/authorities (for example, in your vids), or if its a smaller park/carnival that doesn't have rules on this sort of thing, how would you actually go about mounting the camera on the ride? Do you use a special mount, or put the camera on a certain place on the ride? Also, for gopros, is there any way to improve the audio quality with a special microphone or something, and if so, what mic do you recomend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Not even small parks are going to let you attach something to a train without it being a very special circumstance so it's a moot point to even answer the question. Edited July 18, 2013 by Moose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropzonefan Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 ^ I perfectly understand your point about parks not allowing you to film on rides, no matter the size of the ride/park..*HOWEVER* a carnival is coming to my town in about two weeks, where I personally know employees who can allow me access to film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterAddict-com Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 CP was very strict about cameras on ride. I can see why... no need for you to film your own when you have Robb's fantastic HD ones To be fair, Cedar Point supplies all the POVs we host on our site on DVDs. If the park can do a good enough job of supplying footage to us, I don't even need to shoot it myself! We remember that awesome I305 video you did, Robb... did they end up mounting that for you & allowing you to use their equipment, or was that a different case? Also, when you shoot a video, about how many laps do they normally allow you to take to ensure that you have enough good footage? Thanks for your time and expertise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 CP was very strict about cameras on ride. I can see why... no need for you to film your own when you have Robb's fantastic HD ones To be fair, Cedar Point supplies all the POVs we host on our site on DVDs. If the park can do a good enough job of supplying footage to us, I don't even need to shoot it myself! We remember that awesome I305 video you did, Robb... did they end up mounting that for you & allowing you to use their equipment, or was that a different case? In that specific case we provided services for their media day. We shot all the B-Roll and media rider cams for the Intimidator 305 Media Event. Also, when you shoot a video, about how many laps do they normally allow you to take to ensure that you have enough good footage? It depends on how much time I have! I've been in situations where I need to mount and dis-mount a camera after one ride and situations where the park gives us a coaster for 8 hours to film on. If we have "unlimited" amount of time, I'll usually do about 5 to 10 takes on each camera, sometimes with different settings. For example the Gold Striker video we did, I had a couple of hours to shoot on that ride, so we did lots of different settings. The POV that ended up on the YouTube channel was shot in 1440 instead of 1080 and it looked fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterAddict-com Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 CP was very strict about cameras on ride. I can see why... no need for you to film your own when you have Robb's fantastic HD ones To be fair, Cedar Point supplies all the POVs we host on our site on DVDs. If the park can do a good enough job of supplying footage to us, I don't even need to shoot it myself! We remember that awesome I305 video you did, Robb... did they end up mounting that for you & allowing you to use their equipment, or was that a different case? In that specific case we provided services for their media day. We shot all the B-Roll and media rider cams for the Intimidator 305 Media Event. Also, when you shoot a video, about how many laps do they normally allow you to take to ensure that you have enough good footage? It depends on how much time I have! I've been in situations where I need to mount and dis-mount a camera after one ride and situations where the park gives us a coaster for 8 hours to film on. If we have "unlimited" amount of time, I'll usually do about 5 to 10 takes on each camera, sometimes with different settings. For example the Gold Striker video we did, I had a couple of hours to shoot on that ride, so we did lots of different settings. The POV that ended up on the YouTube channel was shot in 1440 instead of 1080 and it looked fantastic! Thanks for that insight. It is always great to hear the first-hand details about various setups. We know that you might have mentioned this somewhere else, Robb, but do you still use a GoPro 2? Or Go Pro 3? We are looking at possibly upgrading and picking up a good setup for coaster-riding and similar situations; would you happen to have camera and accessories recommendations? Thanks again for your time and expertise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 ^ We always use the most up-to-date equipment. Why use a GoPro 2 when the 3 is available? Why take pics with an iPhone 5 when you can get a 5S, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolkid Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Can you take a camcorder on Cedar Point's Skyride? Somewhere I heard you could, but on the website it says you can only record on the train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Can you take a camcorder on Cedar Point's Skyride? Somewhere I heard you could, but on the website it says you can only record on the train. Sounds like you answered your own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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