canadianparkfan Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Can I ask where Valleyfair came from? I would say CP, Carowinds, and KI... Has been stated several times during quarter earning conference calls. Valleyfair is one of the key markets that they're trying to expand on, along with Carowinds and CA Great America. They don't need as large of an expansion as Carowinds has been needing, but it's still there. Valleyfair has a rather large market available to it, but can only hit around 1 million guests a season when it could easily reach 1.5mil, if not more. Cedar Point pretty much is on its own and really CF can do whatever they want to it as the market is already established and guests will always go there in droves and it's the same with Kings Island. Wonderland is one of those parks too that it's hard to expand on the market when the market is already established, or in their case, the dominate spot in the market. There's a reason why Canada's Wonderland has the highest yearly attendance out of all of the Cedar Fair parks. Makes sense. Now that CF's done some major work on CW over the last few years (2 B&Ms, Windseeker, Guardian etc.), I wouldn't be surprised to see some other "underserved parks getting more TLC in the coming years. However, with that being said, I'm predicting something relatively large taking up Skyrider's spot next year. The park's stated that the removal of Skyrider was a "multi-year project", and with land clearing going on all around the area (including inside Splashworks/near WWC), I'm guessing we'll either see a total revamp of Splashworks or a medium to large sized coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Can I ask where Valleyfair came from? I would say CP, Carowinds, and KI... Has been stated several times during quarter earning conference calls. Valleyfair is one of the key markets that they're trying to expand on, along with Carowinds and CA Great America. They don't need as large of an expansion as Carowinds has been needing, but it's still there. Valleyfair has a rather large market available to it, but can only hit around 1 million guests a season when it could easily reach 1.5mil, if not more. Cedar Point pretty much is on its own and really CF can do whatever they want to it as the market is already established and guests will always go there in droves and it's the same with Kings Island. Wonderland is one of those parks too that it's hard to expand on the market when the market is already established, or in their case, the dominate spot in the market. There's a reason why Canada's Wonderland has the highest yearly attendance out of all of the Cedar Fair parks. Makes sense. Now that CF's done some major work on CW over the last few years (2 B&Ms, Windseeker, Guardian etc.), I wouldn't be surprised to see some other "underserved parks getting more TLC in the coming years. However, with that being said, I'm predicting something relatively large taking up Skyrider's spot next year. The park's stated that the removal of Skyrider was a "multi-year project", and with land clearing going on all around the area (including inside Splashworks/near WWC), I'm guessing we'll either see a total revamp of Splashworks or a medium to large sized coaster. My guess for 2017 is we'll not see a total revamp of Splashworks, but, some slides added near Mighty Canadian Minebuster's first drop as they were clearing land there last year. Also, I think we'll see a dive coaster where SkyRider was. I mean, there isn't much room there but, a dive coaster can be quite compact if they wanted it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Skyhawk's hub structure is almost complete and will be ready to be shipped from Gerstlauer's fabrication plant in Germany very soon! Canada's Wonderland's Facebook post link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 ^So glad to seeSkyhawk coming together! That looks incredible Can I ask where Valleyfair came from? I would say CP, Carowinds, and KI... Has been stated several times during quarter earning conference calls. Valleyfair is one of the key markets that they're trying to expand on, along with Carowinds and CA Great America. They don't need as large of an expansion as Carowinds has been needing, but it's still there. Valleyfair has a rather large market available to it, but can only hit around 1 million guests a season when it could easily reach 1.5mil, if not more. Cedar Point pretty much is on its own and really CF can do whatever they want to it as the market is already established and guests will always go there in droves and it's the same with Kings Island. Wonderland is one of those parks too that it's hard to expand on the market when the market is already established, or in their case, the dominate spot in the market. There's a reason why Canada's Wonderland has the highest yearly attendance out of all of the Cedar Fair parks. Makes sense. Now that CF's done some major work on CW over the last few years (2 B&Ms, Windseeker, Guardian etc.), I wouldn't be surprised to see some other "underserved parks getting more TLC in the coming years. However, with that being said, I'm predicting something relatively large taking up Skyrider's spot next year. The park's stated that the removal of Skyrider was a "multi-year project", and with land clearing going on all around the area (including inside Splashworks/near WWC), I'm guessing we'll either see a total revamp of Splashworks or a medium to large sized coaster. My guess for 2017 is we'll not see a total revamp of Splashworks, but, some slides added near Mighty Canadian Minebuster's first drop as they were clearing land there last year. Also, I think we'll see a dive coaster where SkyRider was. I mean, there isn't much room there but, a dive coaster can be quite compact if they wanted it to be. Maybe it won't be a total revamp, but, I wouldn't be surprised if the got a new entrance (extending into skyrider's spot), plus the slides near Minebuster that you mentioned. With other large water parks opening in the region (Calypso Park a few hours east, plus the preposed indoor waterpark for the GTA), other older waterparks are upping the anti; just look at WildWater Kingdom. They're completely redoing their park, most likely to compete with Calypso. I wouldn't be surprised if CW does something similar. As for the coaster rumor, I'm guessing the land clearing near Minebuster could be for a coaster (if splash works doesn't get any more additions next year). The station would likely be in Skyrider's old spot, and the coaster would probably interact with the area around Minebuster/splash works. Probably something from B&M, maybe Mack or RMC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoFCfan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 ^So glad to seeSkyhawk coming together! That looks incredible Can I ask where Valleyfair came from? I would say CP, Carowinds, and KI... Has been stated several times during quarter earning conference calls. Valleyfair is one of the key markets that they're trying to expand on, along with Carowinds and CA Great America. They don't need as large of an expansion as Carowinds has been needing, but it's still there. Valleyfair has a rather large market available to it, but can only hit around 1 million guests a season when it could easily reach 1.5mil, if not more. Cedar Point pretty much is on its own and really CF can do whatever they want to it as the market is already established and guests will always go there in droves and it's the same with Kings Island. Wonderland is one of those parks too that it's hard to expand on the market when the market is already established, or in their case, the dominate spot in the market. There's a reason why Canada's Wonderland has the highest yearly attendance out of all of the Cedar Fair parks. Makes sense. Now that CF's done some major work on CW over the last few years (2 B&Ms, Windseeker, Guardian etc.), I wouldn't be surprised to see some other "underserved parks getting more TLC in the coming years. However, with that being said, I'm predicting something relatively large taking up Skyrider's spot next year. The park's stated that the removal of Skyrider was a "multi-year project", and with land clearing going on all around the area (including inside Splashworks/near WWC), I'm guessing we'll either see a total revamp of Splashworks or a medium to large sized coaster. My guess for 2017 is we'll not see a total revamp of Splashworks, but, some slides added near Mighty Canadian Minebuster's first drop as they were clearing land there last year. Also, I think we'll see a dive coaster where SkyRider was. I mean, there isn't much room there but, a dive coaster can be quite compact if they wanted it to be. Maybe it won't be a total revamp, but, I wouldn't be surprised if the got a new entrance (extending into skyrider's spot), plus the slides near Minebuster that you mentioned. With other large water parks opening in the region (Calypso Park a few hours east, plus the preposed indoor waterpark for the GTA), other older waterparks are upping the anti; just look at WildWater Kingdom. They're completely redoing their park, most likely to compete with Calypso. I wouldn't be surprised if CW does something similar. As for the coaster rumor, I'm guessing the land clearing near Minebuster could be for a coaster (if splash works doesn't get any more additions next year). The station would likely be in Skyrider's old spot, and the coaster would probably interact with the area around Minebuster/splash works. Probably something from B&M, maybe Mack or RMC? I'm hoping for a B&M wing or Dive still for 2017 or maybe we will have the honor for one of the first RMC single rail or Monorail coasters (whatever you wanna call it but you get the point) but I'm sure we will get some sort of surprise for the 35th anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 ^Right because Cedar Fair is just so keen on their anniversaries. Kings Dominion broke the bank for their 40th--they spent, what, $2 million? Seriously anniversaries mean absolutely nothing to most parks and I don't know what makes you think they'll get a coaster because of an anniversary. If they do get something big next year it has nothing to do with an anniversary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestreak Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 ^Right because Cedar Fair is just so keen on their anniversaries. Kings Dominion broke the bank for their 40th--they spent, what, $2 million? Seriously anniversaries mean absolutely nothing to most parks and I don't know what makes you think they'll get a coaster because of an anniversary. If they do get something big next year it has nothing to do with an anniversary. Valleyfair this year is another example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoFCfan Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Okay okay. It was just an opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm hoping for a B&M wing or Dive still for 2017 or maybe we will have the honor for one of the first RMC single rail or Monorail coasters (whatever you wanna call it but you get the point) but I'm sure we will get some sort of surprise for the 35th anniversary. This year is the 35th year of operation for Canada's Wonderland as the park opened on May 23, 1981. I could see this happening for the 40th which will be in five years. But, I doubt an anniversary has anything to do with what will be coming to the park because Leviathan opened in the 31st year of operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixflagsguy5 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Skyhawk looks like a pretty solid addition to Canada's Wonderland. Hopefully we'll see more of these rides pop up at other CF parks in future years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 There's a 0% chance any Cedar Fair park gets an RMC in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 ^Proof? Where's your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 There's a 0% chance any Cedar Fair park gets an RMC in 2017. Maybe (if you were stating your personal opinion), you should have said something along the lines of "It's highly unlikely that Cedar Fair will receive an RMC in 2017" rather than creating a fact/statement that has no proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSupremacy Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 ^Proof? Where's your source? He Knows All... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 ^Proof? Where's your source? He Knows All... [attachment=0]image.jpeg[/attachment] What? A Dippin' Dots guy at what appears to be Kings Island? (Correct me if I'm wrong. But, I do know that's not at Canada's Wonderland!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 ^Proof? Where's your source? He Knows All... [attachment=0]image.jpeg[/attachment] Ooophhhh... The Dippin Dots guy at KI said it!.... Must be true... He knows all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Season Pass Sneak Preview Night will be held on Friday, April 29th, 2016 from 6 pm to 10 pm. Season pass holders can also take up on the amazing deals being offered only on season pass sneak preview night! For more information on Season Pass Sneak Preview Night and the amazing deals being offered, please click here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN1993 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I believe the silly DIppin Dots fellow is from Carowinds. (Def not KI) not like it matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I believe the silly DIppin Dots fellow is from Carowinds. (Def not KI) not like it matters Thank you for the clarification. It's been a couple years since I was to Kings Island and I couldn't remember how the flower beds were lined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I had also forgot to mention in my earlier post regarding to Season Pass Sneak Preview Night that Skyhawk and Flying Eagles are expected to be operating that night. So, Season Pass holders will be among the first to experience these two new rides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Here is a construction photo update of Skyhawk at Canada's Wonderland. It appears that they have the concrete foundation in, electrical complete and the ride operators' booth being built. Photo Credit: Canada's Wonderland's Facebook post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianparkfan Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 ^Well at least some progress is being made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 ^Well at least some progress is being made Yes, now the tower should be going up soon! The only problem now is the horrible weather we'll be receiving over the next couple of days, so that may slow down the progress considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnlloyd Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Here is an update of Flying Eagles which has replaced A-Mazing Adventures in Kidzville. Photo Credit: Dave Phillips via Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillseeker4552 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'm interested to see how this ride turns out. Cedar Fair hasn't really bought from Gerstlauer much at all; I'd love to see more of their flats at CF parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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