Manic Monte

I guess I spoke too soon.

^ Yeah I agree. However, it is awesome having the option to do either, depending on what your in the mood for.

^ I don't know, sounds pretty awesome to me! But I suspect SFMM's coaster will use more of the terrain, as they obviously have more space to work with than SFDK.

^ SFMM already has several what I'd call "biggie" sized B&Ms, the largest of which (Tatsu) is still one of my faves. Gate Keeper looks fantastic, but for SFMM, I'm looking forward to what Premier or Intamin can come of with for a launch coaster. This is the type of ride SFMM needs imo.

It looks pretty kick ass to me... well, kick ass in a B&M kind of way!

^ Are mondays that busy?

I'm all for that. Just one request though. Do something about Ghost Rider!

Hmmmmm....absolutely no buzz coming out of Knotts. I guess they're going to sit out another year?

All rumours thus far. Truthfully, no ones knows anything about this ride yet. What if the loop is like the inverted loop on Superman (SFDK) ? It's so unfair to already be judging a ride before it's even announced. I can see where we're headed. "Ugh, I'm not looking forward to whatever "park A" builds in 2016, it's going to suck!

^ Okay, that makes more sense. Intimidator is sensational, although I prefer Skyrush. Well let's see what SFMM's launch coaster has to offer. It may surprise us...

Yeah but you can't expect one park on the west coast to match those "several" parks with all those great coasters. The quality of coasters would have to go up at every park over here. I agree that SFMM needs and airtime machine. It makes no sense to have 17-18 roller coasters that all go upside down, and a hyper coaster with one speed hill? But then you look at the other parks in Cali and the situation gets even more dire. Xcelerator and then...nothing.

I'm actually pretty surprised SFMM has been able to keep many of the details of the upcoming coaster so secret. I think back to the days of Goliath's layout leaking a month early, the whispers about the first "4th Dimension" going into the bus parking lot, and of course Robb's great hints about Superman turning backwards. Although the park has pretty much admitted a launch coaster of some sort is coming, and we have gotten lots of crazy rumours from employees. But the park itself has been dead silent. No drop of clues or any sort of PR stunts that other parks have done before announcing a potential game changing addition. If indeed something major is going to be announced at the end of the month, I'd be nice to have some sort of build up to the announcement day to wet our appetites and get us talking about something other than single rider lines. Although I have enjoyed the "launch coaster" talk of the last few pages. C'mon SFMM, throw us a bone!

^ Okay, this kind of thing just boils my blood. The funny thing is, this isn't the first complaint of this type that I have heard from that park. I really have nothing more to say other than if this is the way they treat customers, they can forget me ever visiting that dump, I don't care what they do with rattler.

Okay so I have to ask, why has Knotts been so quiet the past few years. Absolutely no rumors since the rumor of a giga coaster two years ago. Anyone heard anything?

Yeah I'm not sure why people are already questioning the next ride. It's still summer 2012, and the focus should still be on the drop tower. Silver Dollar City aside, most construction for next year will start in the fall, once the midways aren't as packed with people.

Last year Six Flags announced all of their 2012 additions on September 1st. It must have worked well for them. I know I LOVED it. It was like Christmas day enthusiast style.

^ As long as you include a classic photo like that, you get a pass every time!

^ Agreed. Enough already. lol

On my last few visits I have experience some of both, but not NEARLY enough to come even close to the 2001-2005 period. With the exception of Tatsu and Superman, the park has been running multiple trains all summer long. The Tatsu situation continues to be awful though, and there is no excuse for it. I'd say it's one of the worst run rides in the country. The park remains very clean and very few coasters are ever closed for an entire day as in the past. The employees are here and there but overall very friendly and concerned with rider comfort so no big problems there. While the front areas of the park are beautiful, the back area is a dump and is really in need of an overhaul. Overall, I don't feel like I'm visiting a park where no one cares. I just feel like there are still key areas of failure that keep this park from being great.

I agree with this. Btw, I have my own geek thing that annoys me too. I hate glorified family rides with elaborate queues, and then right next to them, big expensive rides with no theme. The best example would be Jaguar and Silver Bullet at Knotts. It's not a huge deal, just my personal pet peeve.

^ Unfortunately that's not just a SFMM thing. That's an all of California thing. We get so few truly great rides, that we tend to over praise anything decent. Having said that, I really like SFMM's lineup of coasters. While none of them crack my top 15 either, they also don't really have a bad one in the bunch either.

You can find a lot of popular flat rides at carnivals too, I really don't get the point of complaining about this one. It's an up charge for extra cash, who cares how much it costs, especially given the large investment coming next year, just one year after opening the big drop ride. The real question is whether the GP will be interested in trying this one. Thrill Shot seemed to have a pretty low ridership as up charges go.

I could care less about anything that I'm not going to pay to ride anyway. Why should I care whether it's a permanent installation or not? It's not for me. Still waiting on the 2013 announcement!

No other parks have up charge attractions? Why is this a bigger deal than it should be?

Very well could be, and that record breaking loop could be similar as well. I just hope that whatever it is, finally gives SFMM that world class launcher that the park really lacks.