Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby hillflyer » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:00 pm

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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby Jew » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:16 pm

You are asking the community here to put their name behind something with very few details besides you have a model and a rendering of a possible pier location.

If you can provide solid information on who the investors are, an architecture/creative firm that is leading the project, an operating company for the park....it might be worth our time to email city council members of a city we don’t live in.
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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby hillflyer » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:24 pm

Jew wrote:You are asking the community here to put their name behind something with very few details besides you have a model and a rendering of a possible pier location.

If you can provide solid information on who the investors are, an architecture/creative firm that is leading the project, an operating company for the park....it might be worth our time to email city council members of a city we don’t live in.



I understand, perhaps I'm being too pushy too early but the city, right now, is soliciting for 'ideas' for the future. I don't think ANY ideas they'll hear are going to be as far along as this one already is.

Perhaps a note encouraging them to consider more family friendly options in their redevelopment plan without being specific?

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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby coasterbill » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:36 pm

Before these "investors" start pouring money into this pier and coaster they should probably do something about this.

This looks like something Price Desmond designed sarcastically. There are no plans of any kind... no proposals... nothing. Just a website that looks like it's being hosted by Geocities in 1997 (complete with the hit counter and text that's bouncing back and fourth that says "Look!!!!".

I can't stop laughing. :lol:

Jew wrote:You are asking the community here to put their name behind something with very few details besides you have a model and a rendering of a possible pier location.

If you can provide solid information on who the investors are, an architecture/creative firm that is leading the project, an operating company for the park....it might be worth our time to email city council members of a city we don’t live in.


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PS: Sorry for being harsh but it’s hard not to be. If you want people to take this project seriously you need an actual plan and a respectable website and social media presence that outlines that plan and doesn’t instead make ignorant statements denying climate change which is both dumb, and more importantly off-putting (especially in the LA market) and irrelevant.

The model is excellent. I don’t see what it has to do with this project but it’s nice. I’ll give you that...

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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby boldikus » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:18 pm

hillflyer wrote:Wow. What I've heard about this site is true. Full of cynical haters.


Insults are certainly going to get you support around here. Great job.

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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby TheAmericanKnight » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:05 pm

Found a picture of one of the investors. Don't worry, all the other investors are just as fictional.
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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby operative_me » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:18 pm

Maybe they can get the people behind the Geauga Lake Gofundme to invest. They have plenty of extra money.

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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby bill_s » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:38 pm

Despite its menacing appearance, Cyclone Racer would fall under the category family coaster. The ride was not so intense as to take away the thrill of the race. Shallow radius valleys provided strong G forces while wide long hilltops were designed to give the rider just a hint of weightlessness. Up until the 40’s there were no lap bars present in the trains.


Doesn't sound like a very good choice of coaster to build completely from scratch.

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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby Nrthwnd » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:07 pm

Just something I found on the Net, of an eastern shore coaster.....

And your model(s) look very nice. :smile:
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Re: Long Beach Cyclone Racer Rebuild Inches Forward

Postby SoCalJasonland » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:07 pm

cycloneracer wrote:
Jew wrote:
hillflyer wrote:
Jew wrote:Famous last words..."Investors are waiting."


That reminds me of an article on historic landmarks a :shockr: San Diego Architectural magazine did in 1980 when mentioning the the Giant Dipper: "Now there is talk of restoring the roller coaster. There always is.". Not to mention a whole bunch of other Doubting Thomas opinions and look what happened. Unnecessary comments are so easily dismissed. Sorry.


I’m certainly not an expert, but I would imagine that the cost of building a pier in California alone is not cheap, let alone building and operating the ride. Hope your mysterious investors have deep pockets—-if they even exist.


It's about a $70M project. That includes the pier 14 rides plus the coaster. I'm one of the investors myself.


Your coaster model is awesome and your research on the coaster appears impeccable. Unfortunately, I don't see the business model to reproduce the coaster as being successful. These coasters were profitable 80 years ago because they were state of the art at the time and drew big crowds. Disneyland, Knott's and Magic Mountain didn't exist and this coaster was probably the most exciting thing going around for a few years. People lined up and they paid off the fixed costs of buying the land and building the coaster quickly. These days, the older designed coasters are lucky to cover the variable costs of operating and maintaining them, so ACE has to help sometimes. I don't think any of the existing beachside wood coasters would be able to cover the original land acquisition or building costs if they were required to, as those portions were likely paid off long ago. You are better off investing your money in a beach house at Mission Beach or Santa Cruz and letting them worry about how to keep their coasters running so you can ride them.
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