some sort of coaster dude Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 1. How many negative gs on camelbacks could a stand up safely pull, as opposed to with riders sitting. 2. Would you ride such a device, for the novelty of airtime while standing, presuming that we are making it with notable -gs on any of its hills, and otherwise resembling a B&M hyper with a few twister elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6flagsbrad Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Sounds like a nice idea. I'm up for it. I had an idea for B&M to bring back stand-up and suspended: combine them. Think about it, swinging at angles more than 90 degrees while standing! Just an idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some sort of coaster dude Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 Sounds like a nice idea. I'm up for it.I had an idea for B&M to bring back stand-up and suspended: combine them. Think about it, swinging at angles more than 90 degrees while standing! Just an idea though. hmm that could be nice, i am not sure about it , now if you could do a suspended inverted stand up with no floor, and somehow have a restraint mechanism, or minimal floor , like say , in a sort of a cage so there is great spaciousness! I am very interested in a very twistey diving, turning , swooping, few straight airtime hills with a strong negative g force, style stand up hyper, or even mega coaster, albeit we have to deal with the restraints it could be very fun and drops on a stand up would be nice. Perhaps you could have 1 train stand up and 1 train sitting, with a dual loading station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingRunner Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Ouch. No. I'll take those nice clamshells over OTSR's anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBru Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I would love to ride a stand-up hyper. I think the airtime on the TOGO stand-ups is really fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devious Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Very much yes, especially B&M The crazy turns from things like Georgia scorcher would work well on a hyper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Behemoth_Lady_Jess Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 As for the trains, would a lasso/zero gravity style cage (with some modifications) work instead of the typical "stands"/seats? As without an actual seat that needs to be adjusted for each person, the loading process can be a lot more efficient. Not to mention a more comfortable ride than a regular standup. Another thing to consider is how megacoasters like Titan or Goliath (both SFOG and SFMM) pull very strong G's in the infamous helix. Seeing what it can do to you while sitting down I cannot imagine how that'd feel standing up. It would put too much strain on your legs. The reason standups hurt your legs is because your legs take all the force. For example, I'm 145 lbs under normal gravity (normal gravitational force). That means when I'm under say 4.5 G of force, I'd weigh 652.5 lbs therefore making it painful to stay standing. When you're sitting, your bottom takes the weight, which is a lot easier than your legs taking the force. With the right type of "passenger accomodation" (aka "seating"), and G force levels carefully calculated out, I think it can be done. With B&M's traditional values though, I don't think they'd push it this far. Maybe Intamin could give it a go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Regular stand-up coasters are uncomfortable enough, thank you. Riddler's Revenge is as big as those rides should get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I won't even ride Mantis anymore. I don't get any thrill and it just kills my legs, and my boys for the rest of the day. So, I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I'm sure a lot of enthusiasts would ride it. I'm sure a lot of enthusiasts would complain afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-RadG Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 As much as I love Shockwave and its crappily-designed airtime, I would not want to go over 200 feet and over 70 mph on that type of coaster. The sensation of airtime while standing up is awesome but no element could be pulled off smoothly while fully standing, especially at high speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeSteven Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I think just out of curiosity I would definitely try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebl Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I agree with Chuck. While I personally enjoy Riddler's Revenge, I think that ride is about as big as a standup should get. In my own experience, the hill over where Freefall used to be gives some good airtime, but more than that...no. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devious Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 I must be weird then, i can chain ride standups and enjoy them every time Heck, i rode Vortex @ Carowinds 9 times in the back row and never had a bad ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some sort of coaster dude Posted May 17, 2010 Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 okay, the cage would be incredible if the g transitions were smooth and the negatives just around 0 , -0.2 or something of the sort...... would have to be very delicate with positive g transitions from negative ? i don't think that would work, as in first drop, negative gs, bottom of the hill strong positives... okay , so, would a hyper have more positive g forces than riddlers in the first place, why ? the large hills make for , yes longer gs, but not necessarily faster transitions of g forceexperiences, perhaps we would have to have mellow positive s and laterals but we could still have some nice airtime and make it an interesting experience ? the idea of a cage with a gratuitously loose lap pad of sorts, to let you have 3-4 inches of airtime regardless of your size, in a sitting position is appealing. perhaps an automatic large padded bar that is purposely lifted a few inches above you to allow floating, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I'd ride it but I wouldn't be optomistic about my chances of survival or at least avoiding a severe nut cracking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEAPUgrad Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Only if I could wear a jockstrap and a protective cup to protect my manhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunder Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 ^Good point, I'll pack that, I have one for cricket and one for Karate fighting, I think I'll wear both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Behemoth_Lady_Jess Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 ^Good point, I'll pack that, I have one for cricket and one for Karate fighting, I think I'll wear both. I never even though of that! Even though I'm a girl and I don't really find standups that bad, but still sounds like a good idea. I have one (the girl kind) for Tae Kwon Do and I'm probably going to be wearing it on Mantis. Some kind of coaster dude, the lap bar for the cage would probably have to be height adjustable, just like a regular "stand" on a standup coaster. That's the problem with the standing position, people are of different heights. On the other hand in a sitting position, height isn't much of a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbia Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 I'm sure a lot of enthusiasts would ride it. I'm sure a lot of enthusiasts would complain afterwards. How is that different from now? ; ) Hypers were made to be long...stand ups were usually short sweet and to the point. Plus, I STOOD in line for an hour just to STAND some more? I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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