BeemerBoy Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Sorry to double post, but concerning that new Juke, this can't be good. But hey, at least it was identified early, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I wish there were more daring small cars for sale in the U.S. Â ?? This is like the best time for small cars in the US for probably close to 20 years. Sure the range still sucks compared to Europe, but it sucks so much less than it has in the past. There are awesome small cars currently available from Subaru, VW, Mazda, Infiniti, Scion, Fiat, Audi, Honda, Mini. Does Mitsu have anything cool out now? Â Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmicha Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I guess my biggest issue is that the styling of the majority of the small cars on the market does very little for me. And I guess I should have been a little more specific when I said small cars I was referring to three door hatchbacks. Mechanically speaking there are plenty of great options but the styling kills most of them for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClarke0912 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 ^Well, I'm not crazy about some of the styling on certain models, but still your statement about them "taking the vanilla route in design" is pretty much false haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmicha Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 ^When it comes to affordable small cars available in the U.S., not really. When you get down into the sub $20,000 price range, the styling becomes more universal and less daring to appeal to a larger market, which I fully understand. It just doesn't do much to excite me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjaco Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I love my wife's Mazda 3 so much we're looking at getting another Mazda when the Rav4 moves onto greener pastures. So much bang for the buck, it's almost a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollercoasterbuff Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 by BeemerBoy » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:19 am Sorry to double post, but concerning that new Juke, this can't be good. But hey, at least it was identified early, I guess.  I guess it's a good thing mine is a 2012.  Cyrus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 What is everyone's thoughts on the Audi LEDs that have spread to other cars? I actually think they look fantastic - I think it can make a car look "mean"er and am considering upgrading my headlights to include these. Â Â Kinda leaning towards no but thought maybe the court of public opinion could sway me one way or the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrideseeker Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 ^ I love the LED lights. They look so good, well they look good on the right car!! I saw them on a like 1994 Honda the other day, did not look good. However I saw them on a 2011 Porsche today and they looked amazing! Like I said, I really like them, just depends on the car they are on. To me they seem to add an elegant touch. I say go for it!! ~Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Joe, you're killing me with that video (since I can't see it here at work). As for the lights in general, I love 'em. Â Does your Z4 have xenon "Angel Eyes"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Yes   What I'm really looking to change is the amber - don't particularly like it. Only way to do so is beyond my skill level, and this guy will do that in addition to swapping the angel eyes for better, brighter LED ones. For an extra $65, he'll do an LED strip turn signal like the video above.   I just think the amber kills the look - it would be easier to explain with a night photo, but basically the amber just overpowers the headlights. You can't even tell it has angel eyes unless youre fairly close  Here are the LED strips on a z (ignore the blue, no way in hell I'm going with the blue!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I agree, the amber kills it, but the bottom shot is a much cleaner look (minus the blue). I say GO FOR IT! Â Â Side note: Poor Audi. The entire industry is pilfering the one unique design feature that set 'em apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I actually quite like the LED accents around headlights - although I still loath most LED tails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm surprised no one caught this: Â However I saw them on a 2011 Porsche today and they looked amazing! BS... there's no way to tell the difference between Porsches of different model years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I'm not a fan of the LED accents, to me it looks like the rope lighting you'd buy at Ikea! Â I agree about the amber, but can't you just replace it with White or Clear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 That's my worry is that it will come out cheap and tacky looking - especially since its not OEM. Since I'd have to ship the headlights back to California to have them removed if I ever got them, I'm just debating on whether the potential awesome look is worth the risk of 100$ more in shipping if I don't like it. Â Either way, I'm going to have it cleared. Just wondering if I go for the LED strip option and I'm loving hte feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrideseeker Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'm surprised no one caught this:Â However I saw them on a 2011 Porsche today and they looked amazing! BS... there's no way to tell the difference between Porsches of different model years Really?? .. Try looking at the front of a 2010 Cayenne and the front of a 2011 Cayenne and tell me that you can not see the difference. Â Regardless I still say go for the LED lights. I think they would really look good on the car, and I agree... The ambers do not look so hot. ~Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 ^ The Porsche joke is about the 911. Nobody in their right mind really cares about anything else that company builds (okay, besides the Carrera GT). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 ^We rented a Carrera S in Vegas. The transmission was already f'd when we got it with 3,000 miles on it. It had a bad habit of not shifting out of third gear, shifting from 7th to 6th when pedal travel was unchanged, and if you wanted to overtake someone on the highway it would drop down to SECOND gear at 70mph and hold it there!!!! That's why nobody should buy a Porsche with an automatic. The DSG is terrible! Â Joe, why don't you clear the headlights and put in LED bulbs that flash from white to amber? I helped Elissa's brother install those on his mustang (and failed) but honestly I HATE the LED strips on cars. Maybe the A5 I can deal with, but otherwise they scream "I'm a cock". Here is what I'm talking about: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I think the Audis switch to amber when used a as turn signal, yes? I like that.. honestly I'm leaning away from the LED strip, not because I don't think they are cool, but for the same reason I hate to see angel eyes on an F150 like I did last week - let's keep the car BMW, not steal from inferior manufacturers  I have to wonder if the rental company didn't buy a lemon law buyback or demo or something of that nature to save money - I really wouldn't mind a flappy paddle gearbox if you could make it reliable. You'd think that the problems would have been resolved now that we're 10 years into the game as far as production vehicles go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmicha Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 As I'm home for break and have a little more time on my hands I have been researching some small cars to get a good base of what I would like whenever I actually start my search to buy a car. I am looking in the $16,000-$19,000 range. I decided that covering a good portion of the practicality-fun spectrum would be a good way to gauge where I would like to sit in that respect. I haven't test driven anything yet so that isn't coming into play beyond what I've read but I checked out the Kia Soul Plus, the Kia Forte Koup SX and the Hyundai Veloster. All manuals. These all sit nicely in this price range with the Soul being the cheapest and the Forte being the most expensive. The Soul is obviously the most functional, but is also by far the least exciting to me. The Forte Koup and the Veloster are similarly exciting aesthetically with the Forte being a higher-performing vehicle. The Veloster makes up for that with much better gas mileage and added functionality. The Forte is also the largest car in terms of length which is something for me to consider since I live in the city and street parking is basically all there is. I am currently borrowing my dad's 2009 Sonata Limited and it isn't a massive car but there have been many times where a spot is just slightly too small to fit in and having a smaller car would allow me to take advantage of the tiny spaces that most people aren't willing/able to fit in. All in all I like the Veloster the most and would like to test drive the three of these options to get a better feel for which one most suits my needs. Does anyone own any of these cars that has anything to add that would be good to know for someone interested in checking these out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkTrips Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 There is only one choice in that price range - slightly used GTI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmicha Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 ^I'd much rather go with a new car with a much better warranty than a GTI. We've also owned multiple Hyundai products over the years so I know what I would be getting into with that. A used GTI isn't really something I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrideseeker Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 I looked at the Hyundai Veloster when I was looking at getting a new car, and they were neat little cars!!! The only downfall is if you are over 6ft they are very uncomfortable when driving, even more so if you have the sunroof. The sunroof lowers the headroom about an inch, and for tall people that is not a plus!! The visibility is kind of limited, but like I said its a really fun car, and has a lot of awesome technology. The looks you get in it are kind of fun too!! Not to mention they get great gas mileage!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmicha Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 ^I'm just under 6 feet tall so that's definitely something that I will have to test drive it to find out. I'd be getting the base, so the lesser headroom with the sunroof wouldn't add to the issue since there wouldn't be one. I'm quite fond of its looks and the size is just about perfect for what I want. That and it comes in some great colors. I am a huge fan of black cars but I would much rather haver some bright and bold so the colors it comes in are great for that. I would love to test one to get a better feel for it but since I'm not serious at this very time about getting a car and won't be for at least another year or so dealers probably wouldn't let me do more than sit in one. And the fact that there's only one within 50 miles of me means finding one to test is difficult. We went to check it out in person since I hadn't seen one in person yet and quite liked the way it looks. There were some oddities I was unsure about when looking at pictures, but in person none of these stood out as odd and overall the car's styling was very much my taste. And the fantastic gas mileage is just an added bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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