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This is somewhat of an old announcement but I just found the article.

 

The Associated Press

 

May 5, 2009

 

ANAHEIM - Disney says it will no longer scan its Splash Mountain and three other rides for guests who feel the need to flash.

 

Disney confirmed Tuesday that it has reassigned employees at Disneyland and Disney's California Adventure who watched for breast-baring riders because "actual inappropriate behaviors by guests are rare."

 

Disneyland spokeswoman Suzi Brown issued the statement after the blog www.miceage.com reported on the changes, which took effect Sunday. The change includes Splash Mountain, Tower of Terror, Space Mountain and California Screamin'.

 

Riders are photographed on the attractions and can then buy souvenir copies. Some guests have exposed their breasts in hopes that the picture would make it onto a photo preview screen at the ride's exit.

 

The company began the screening about 10 years ago.

Article

 

Yeah! Now I can finally expose myself Disney style! I have tried in the past and have only gotten away with it once on Space Mountain. Now the infamous "Flash" Mountain returns and all the slutty, white-trash girls can show off their boobs.

 

--Chris

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Well, you'd think since they can make facial recognition software, they should be able to add boob recognition abilities that could black out any "inappropriate content" from being displayed on the photo booth screens.

 

I'd also find it pretty funny if some random guys tried to buy the girl's pictures...

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I don't understand why this is even a news story: now the people selling the picture will simply delete the photo instead of editing. So there still won't be anybody actually getting their "flash mountain" photos...

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^ It's true they won't be able to buy their picture, but there won't be anything stopping them from taking a photo of the preview screens in the ride's exit and then posting said pictures to the internet. Which, as I understand it, is the concern.

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^A simple mouse click will take care of that. The picture will be gone so quick they won't have the opportunity to take a photo of the screen. It seems like all removing the photo editing position does is increase the chances from 0% to 5%. Still a very minimal opportunity to exploit the system IMO.

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Yeah I don't see it as a problem as there is at least 2-3 minutes between the time a picture is taken to the time it is seen on any sort of prview screen for any of those attractions, the closest one would get is California Screamin' but even still. Plenty of time for someone to hit the delete button.

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No disrespect to either of the posts above, but how did the old "Flash Mountain" pictures come into being? Was the process of deleting a picture something more than a mouse click back then?

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^A simple mouse click will take care of that. The picture will be gone so quick they won't have the opportunity to take a photo of the screen. It seems like all removing the photo editing position does is increase the chances from 0% to 5%. Still a very minimal opportunity to exploit the system IMO.

Joey, I think you're missing the entire point. There will no longer be someone there to actually screen the photos before Guests can see them on the viewing screens both on and off the ride. The Owl Photo viewing screen just before logs return to the station will allow Guests who flash the camera to quickly take a picture of it with their own personal digital camera. It would be very simple for someone to do it if they want to because no one is screening them anymore.

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^Shouldn't the person actually selling the photos have some control over that? I know USH's systems are all controlled right at the point-of-sale terminals themselves. I assumed that was the industry standard. I guess I assumed wrong?

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Here are my two questions about this:

 

1. Why is Disney making this so public? If I were them I wouldn't announce "Hey we aren't watching you anymore" to everyone because then that just makes people more likely to do it.

 

2. What is Disney's procedure if someone does flash the camera's? I know some parks throw the individual out, does Disney?

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^Shouldn't the person actually selling the photos have some control over that? I know USH's systems are all controlled right at the point-of-sale terminals themselves. I assumed that was the industry standard. I guess I assumed wrong?

Cast Members who work in Owl Photo and sell Splash Mountain on-ride photos to Guests WERE the ones who WOULD staff the photo screening position, but they cut the position entirely for budget reasons. Honestly, the position wasn't even for screening innappropriate/nude photos anyway, it's there so Security can have proof of Guest safety violation incidents.

 

Edit: ^I don't get it, either.

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^I understand that specific position was cut, but the on-ride photo booth itself is still going to be open, right? Admittedly my assumption is based on how the system works at USH, but I would imagine that the people actually selling photos have some control over the photos as well? Which is why I said that the chances of a bad picture getting put on the screen will increase, but probably won't be an issue.

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I think you guys are missing my point: I believe someone will still be screening them, but it won't be nearly as selective. I assume that the person actually selling the photos has the ability to look at thumbnails to assist in finding a guests photo, which also means they will have the ability to delete offending content from their servers (thus, pulling them off the monitors) if they spot them on the thumbnails.

 

I could be completely off base in my assumption they can see thumbnails, but I have yet to see an on-ride photo system where this isn't the case.

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^ Joey, if you read the article, and the other statements released by Disney and reported by other sites you would have seen that the position of screener is being eliminated.

 

It's been pointed out in this thread that the screener shift is manned from a photo shop CM, but as I've read on other sites, it's not in the same location. So it could conceivably be that they do not have the ability to look at thumbnail pictures until somebody comes up to the booth and says "I want to buy picture 4519".

 

Not to even mention that if there is only 1 or 2 people in the photo shop, they aren't going to have the time to look at every photo, thus the reason for a screener position. You know how busy the photo things get at Disney, and ESPECIALLY Splash, which is where the real issue is.

 

Plus, for Disney to come out and say "the instances of inappropriate behavior aren't high" is a crock. Almost every time we ride Tower or Splash or Space or Screamin' there is inevitably a "lost in the loop, lost in space, lost in the 5th Dimension" picture up there.

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^I read the article. I get that there is no specific positon for screening anymore. I even posted as much. But I'm also guessing that the sales staff themselves have a thumbnail view available to them. They obviously won't have the time to screen and sell photos, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are also now instructed to take a bit closer look at thumbnails as they are helping a guest pull up/print out their photo.

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^ But wouldn't Disney say that even though they were eliminating the permanent position that there would still be a Cast Member with the ability to delete offensive pictures? At least that would put a positive spin on the story.

 

Seeing as they said nothing about other Cast Members having the ability to do so, I am going to assume that there is no way for these pictures to be removed from the screen until they are bumped. And if there is, it most likely will not be utilized.

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This reminds me of when me and my friends and some random people flashed the camera on Superman at SFA last year! Only 2 girls did it too but they had t-shirts underneath. When we saw the pic, all you saw was half of the train flashing! Wish I would have taken a pic of it, it was hilarious.

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At Cedar Point I remember a person pulling out a camera to take a picture of the preview screen at Mantis, only to have the screen change to the ride's logo just before he could hit the trigger. He turned to the counter, where the attendant/salesperson told him he was not allowed to do that. I implied from that the person standing in that booth (to sell the pictures people request) has the power to remove any pictures from those preview screens.

 

And I pictured this person to be different from the person at the "screener" position at Disney. So before this position termination, photos at Disney sort of went through two stations before ending up on the preview screens--from the on-ride camera to the screener to the seller, where it pops up on the screen.

 

Now, it goes from the on-ride camera straight to the seller and the screens, but the seller can remove it if identified. Unless, of course, I'm way off base. Is this what you're thinking, Joey? Your explanation sounded similar to mine, as I read it.

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