Hersheypark 2008 - 'Lost meets the Maverick thread'

[Tmcdllr]

^Forgot about gravity didnt you. If the flume was above you or "inverted" as you say, how then would the water stay in it?

[TexTitan01]

^I think that was a joke, as some people call it

 

My money is on either a Dive Machine to one up Griffon, or a mini-Floorless similar to daemonen, maybe a little bigger, with more oomf. Eitherway, Hershey needs something to combat Hydra @ Dorney, not like thats much of a task...

[DerekRx]

^Hershey has Trailblazer to compete with Hydra...

 

 

...as most boring coaster in Pennsylvania

[Ccron10]

According to Screamscape, the Nantomi site is a fake. This means that next year's additon could be greater or smaller than $12.1million and that the ride won't be called Tsunami.

(8/27/07) Lots of wild and fake rumors are going around for Hersheypark, claiming to know what they are building next year. Best of all, it seems someone has gone out of their way to create what appears to be a fake website design company who claims to have signed a contract with Hersheypark to build a site for the new attraction. The funny part is that the design company’s name (Nantimi) is actually an anagram for Intamin. So for the time being, since there is an effort out there to push so much fake information, the best thing to do is just sit and wait them out for a bit.

[Homer]

Kudos to the person that had people fall for it, got me good, though I was suspicious of the Intamin anagram in the first place.

[Reon]

I can totally see that chutes area going away. They just installed their little mega-waterpark this year, so why keep their randomly placed slide tower there? I havent been to Hershey for 3 years, so I'm a bit hazy on the other placement. However, I have come to a conclusion:

 

Intamin Dive Machine.

 

As someone said before (too lazy to go back and quote the post), Intamin tends to expiriment with new coasters all the time. Also, if Intamin were to do a dive machine, it would get around the BG contract, reguardless of how real or imaginary it actually is.

 

As for spacial issues, they could easily make a steep cable lift ala MF, then make a transition into the main verticle drop.

 

 

 

Finally, Aquatrax.

 

 

(BTW, post 900)

[okinawaboy11]

Apparently the people over on CoasterBuzz have "inside" sources (Not dippin dots workers, but mechanics & managers) that are all saying Maverick-esque clone. I'm saying this now, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

Also, Perfect Ten is surfing lingo...Larger wave pool anyone?

[CoasterEricHP]

I can see something like Maverick but they're really going to have to make this thing go over pathways and around other rides. It's definately going to be interesting. I'd put money down on a Eurofighter.

 

Eric

[Ccron10]

^Not really, they could build in the parking lot behind it, if so, let's hope it's not a parking lot coaster! lol

[CoasterEricHP]

That parking lot has been rumored to go for a few years so maybe. Now that I look at it I think they could build a Maverick type ride and either take out Canyon River Rapids or build over it..

 

Here's a quick map of where the ride might go.

 

Purple = waterslides being demolished

 

Blue = Parking lot

 

Red = Canyon River Rapids

 

Or maybe it could be both areas!

[Jim S.]

According to Screamscape, the Nantomi site is a fake. This means that next year's additon could be greater or smaller than $12.1million and that the ride won't be called Tsunami.

 

Apparently the people over on CoasterBuzz have "inside" sources (Not dippin dots workers, but mechanics & managers) that are all saying Maverick-esque clone. I'm saying this now, I'll believe it when I see it.

 

Also, Perfect Ten is surfing lingo...Larger wave pool anyone?

 

"All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense." -- Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess And What I Did To Her When I Found Her

 

Even if the Nantimi company is a fake, that doesn't mean that the website can't be produced by Hershey. It's called viral marketing, look it up.

 

The name Tsunami, the wave imagery, and the surfing connection aren't inconsistent with a Maverick-type coaster. Think of the profile of the 95-degree drop as a wave curling over.

[yankees15]

Also over at cousterbuzz.com they said the ride will have a vertical lift of 121 feet and a 95 degree drop, but I don't buy any of it until the announcement is made.

[Tanks4me05]

^^Here's a park map with all the approximate areas of the sitings of the markers. Here's where all of them have been spotted...

-Minetown

-Around the Claw

-Possibly behind the Claw in the parking lot.

-All around Western Chute Out

- Behind Canyon River Rapids near the Railroad Crossing.

-By Tidal Force

-There's also been talk about seeing them also out by the Merry Derry Dip Fun Slides.

If anyone sees any in the area near Trailblazer, then this coaster could have a very long circuit. It also seem likely that this ride could have a height near or over 200ft.

 

I wonder how it would be for a diving machine to do a zero-g-roll, loop, or corkscrew?

 

Holy crap, that land plot is HUGE! I wonder, maybe it could be a Giga... just throwing ideas around.

[CoasterEricHP]

If all of the information that is "leaked" is true then it all points to a Eurofighter. Just slap on some light blue/dark blue paint and you have a surf theme... although if the station is by the current waterslides it's not really in the Boardwalk area of the park.

 

95 degree drop and a vertical lift is all Eurofighter, and 12.1 million (listed on the nantimi page) is a relatively low price tag considering Maverick cost 21 million, and Mystery Mine cost 17.5. Take out Mystery Mine's extensive theming and you're probably looking at 13 million?

 

Plus, these coasters take up a relatively small footprint. I havent been to Hershey since they started putting marks on the ground, but I really DOUBT anything is going to go all over the park like the one map on here.

 

I dont really believe in the dippin dots person but Oct 2nd is so far away!!

 

Eric

[CoasterEricHP]

I'm bored waiting for class so here's a quick rendering of what I think we'll see. This is loosely based off the Eurofighter "Speed: No Limits". It starts by the waterslides, heads to the Playdome Arcade which is in desperate need of being ripped out and back. It doesnt require any backstage buildings to be torn down and doesnt go over any pathways.

 

What do you think?

 

EDIT: After doing some more research the Euro Fighter going in at the Mall of America is only like $3 million! It's only a couple hundred feet shorter than Mystery Mine, so for a $12 million dollar Euro Fighter it'd be a lot more than what my picture has.. probably a second lift and some other elements elsewhere.

[bigstevet07]

I don't know about a Eurofighter. Hershey doesn't seem to put in just ok coasters lately. (Boomerang aside) I think they will try to come with something great. I'm leaning toward something new, like the Intamin dive machine.

[DerekRx]

Something tells me it's not a Eurofighter, and I'm still leaning towards Intamin, especially how they've had a good history with them regarding Storm Runner. I don't know where this "vertical lift" talk and 95 degree drop is coming from, but Maverick does has a beyond vertical drop, and Intamin could have thrown a vertical lift into the equation. Maverick may have cost a lot of money, but how much of that is because of the LSMs and theming? Have a chain lift or elevator lift and I'm sure you can knock off a nice chunk of change.

[CoasterEricHP]

Yeah that's true Derek.. the LSM's and theming cost a few million and even a similar ride with a shorter layout would be perfect for Hershey.

 

I wonder what an Intamin vertical lift and the train design for that would look like. Hmmmm...

[FeelTheFORCE]

Whatever it is, I;m sure it will be pretty good, because it certainly sounds like it. Maybe it will be a B&M dive coaster, but be the first one with a more than 90 degree drop.

[natatomic]

Whatever it is, I;m sure it will be pretty good, because it certainly sounds like it. Maybe it will be a B&M dive coaster, but be the first one with a more than 90 degree drop.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like dive machines are more of a gimmick than a brilliant coaster idea. Sure, they're fun the first time, but I think - similar to rides like TTD and KK - they focus way too much on one element and the rest of the ride (or lack there of, since these coasters are some of the shortest out there) greatly suffers.

 

Unless they add on a LOT more to the dive machine concept and make an attempt for a better all-around coaster, I will be a bit disappointed if it's just another dive machine. I mean, we've already got two on the east coast, and I don't think 5 degrees beyond vertical is a big enough improvement when the ride lacks, IMHO, length, variety, and rerideability (sp? Is that even a word?).

[CoasterEricHP]

Rerideability.. Hmm.. I think its a word! At least in our world.

 

I havent been on Griffon yet, but I agree think that Sheikra, which I think is a decent ride, is missing something that makes it a "WOW" ride. I dont know if that's length or lack or elements or what...

 

I dont think that this is going to be the huge breakthrough ride that everyone thinks it will be. Here's a quote from an interview with the CEO of Hersheypark/HERCO:

 

"We don't want to take it to the point where we're trying to be the tallest, fastest, the extreme edge of the way some parks have gone. We've always been about families, and so building a 200-foot roller coaster that is a plunge roller coaster would not be something that we would want to consider"

 

Of course he could be telling us what is next right there too?!

[Reon]

*repeats self until it gets stuck in everyone's head*

 

Intamin divemachine

Intamin divemachine

Intamin divemachine....

 

Now with 200' drop and verticle cable lift.

[FeelTheFORCE]

An Intamin Dive Machine would be interesting, and has a ton of potential if they do it right. If it is one, I am curious to see whta the trains would look like. I still wouldn't mind a Maverick-esque coaster or a Eurofighter, though.

[ttu]

Just got back from the park today, The Western Chute Out was closed and looked to be in the process of removal. The slides were still intact but the wood supports on the midway side were missing. The orange markings seem to go behind the virtual theater and behind Rodeo (by the train tracks. After that, the trail seems to cross the path over by CRR and follows back next to park avenue. I couldnt follow it from there on. There was also markings in front of the catering pavillions (tidal Force & Canyon River) and all over the WCO complex. It's gonna be a nice size ride, whatever it is.

[Reon]

^Intamin can make-sized ride. They can also make verticle drops. I wonder if they'd make a verticle drop coaster?......