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What an awesome deal, Cedar Fair's platinum pass is such a great deal for all the amenities that come with it

This angle is amazing

Not a bad deal at all, that's worth hundreds of dollars

Wow the 16 inversion coaster looks like Jokers Jinx/FOF/Poltergeist on steroids

If MM gets a flatride I doubt it'd be a sky screamer, aren't they like $6 mil? (the same price as Yolo) doubt they'd spend such an exorbitant amount on yet another observation deck

Probably one of the worst lift hills to be stuck on, so high, steep, no stairs, and next to a bed of water. Just freaky

If you discount the original Batman, no Six Flags park has a custom B&M invert

Front row left outer seat

These are good comments. In my view, part of the problem is that many of fine folks in charge of ride acquisitions (and PR departments) are overly concerned with "records" and gimmicks, thinking that those are the necessary marketing angles to have a successful coaster. Now, to some extent, they may be right in the short-term sense: marketing a coaster as the "tallest, fastest, etc." probably does give you a bump in gate in the initial season that you are unlikely to get from a non-flashy coaster in terms of records from the outset. BUT, the longer-term view is that a great ride sustains repeat visits over a much longer term period than a gimmicky ride or one that is a record-breaker, but otherwise not a great ride. Not that record-breaking is mutually exclusive with being a great ride -- but they are not necessarily the same. I suspect that a ride like Maverick has been substantially more profitable to Cedar Point than a ride like Mantis or Mean Streak or Wicked Twister (all record breakers) because it is a great ride experience that sticks in people's minds as one of the rides they want to experience again in a future visit. I am often confused when parks end up with dud coasters because it doesn't seem that hard to develop a successful ride. All you have to do is visit other parks and observe which rides are the most popular ones over time and why. It's rarely gimmick driven -- it's almost always a ride with good drops, air, and pacing. For instance, I remain utterly baffled why NO park in North America has made note of El Toro's popularity and cloned a version of it elsewhere. Imagine if Cedar Point had put in an El Toro instead of Gatekeeper (not that I think Gatekeeper was a bad move). El Toro-clone might even be a little cheaper. But I guarantee you that the proportion of visitors seeking repeat rides in day and wanting to return to the park over the long haul would be significantly higher with that type of ride. I will go to my grave completely perplexed by the absence of any more Intamin prefabs given their raging success in every installation. The El Toro saga baffles me too, there has to be more than meets the eye as to why more of these weren't installed in the U.S. They must cost a lot more than we know and/or are expensive to maintain. The fact that MM installed a GCI twister instead of an Intamin after the success of ET speaks volumes more than anything

If it's Wanda, 70% could be real. Two of the four GG Fantawild woodies are featuring barrel roll(s) and run with Timberliners. The other two are running PTC trains. The one at HotGo is running Timberliners but without inversions. I interviewed Chance, they said they have a lot of potential clients that can buy bigger Hyper GTX model. They can add inversions but they hope their rides can focus on airtime more so they would not recommend inversions. Awesome, thanks for that!

Ninja does have its moments. I love Ninja, it was my very first roller coaster at 7 years old. It scared the shit out of me lol

Yeah if only Yolo were longer it'd be the best in the park, it's fast, smooth, forceful, and a unique experience with 3 launches. I'm surprised more of the smaller SF haven't installed these, it's inexpensive and takes up a relatively small footprint.

Here's the lowdown as I remember: Texas Giant opens at SFOT in 1990 to rave reviews. Within weeks, the ride is literally ripping itself apart. During Coaster Con 1990, cars are falling apart; one morning before ERT, a trim brake appears on the first drop. Halfway through the convention, the front of the blue train is put on the white train as car #1 of white is falling apart... you get the picture. Cedar Point wants a "Texas Giant" but after hearing how the ride is ripping itself apart, they want a tamer version. Footers were already poured... So they changed to profile of the ride to have half the number of hills. TG had around 23 hills when new, MS had 12. It was a great ride in 1991; fast and very smooth. The whole section from drop #3 to the mid course brake was incredible (that entire area was later tamed down). Compared to TG 1990, though, it was a baby ride. Wow definitely makes sense now why Mean Streak is so drawn out and boring

Im the case of B&M vs. Intamin: A Porsche will always break down more than a Lexus

I think CP already self-proclaims themself as the coaster capital even tho MM has the record. A lot like they disregarded Superman The Escape all those years claiming it was not a coaster but then included WT as part of their coaster count lol

Mean Streak really is that terrible, being stuck in a shipping crate during a 5.0 magnitude earthquake is what I can equate it to.

Intamin-Do they think they'll ever build a mega lite in the U.S? And what do they think of the copies (Alpina Blitz, Lightning Run). Are they done building wooden coasters? Chance-Any plans to build say a bigger Lightning Run, like a hyper? B&M-Are they done building hypers with trains featured on Diamondback, Intimidator, and Behemoth and back to the four across seating (ala Leviathan) Mack-Will we ever see a launcher like Helix in the U.S?

Too bad the arrowbatic was never built

American Eagle and Elf would like to have a word with you. LOL!! Whoops, should've been more specific! I mean the new school pre-fab Intamin woodies!!

Hoping to do a road trip starting at KD, then Gradv, Hershey, and CP

This! Every one of Intamins woodies are in the top 20, with the rise of RMC people aren't buzzing about them as much. They're obviously durable, and easy to maintain etc; Doubt CP will work with Intamin though, a very sad thing considering CPs big three are all Inties

As much as I like GateKeeper I have to agree with this, the $25-28 mil CP dropped on GateKeeper could've gotten them an RMC treatment for Mean Streak, plus another smaller attraction like a Premier custom launcher, or a Euro fighter etc; In terms of receiving a return on investment, I remember Kinzel on record saying TTD was the biggest mistake he'd ever made. Maybe at the time it was considering all the problems but GK to me was a bigger mistake (even though he didn't make it) just because it was so damn expensive and will never get the attention/hype/fan appreciation of TTD. Although I don't care for Gatekeeper, it does give the park a more dramatic entrance. I imagine Cedar Fair will work with RMC at some point. It all depends on what they need. Agree with this 100% It's the single most aesthetically pleasing part of the park albeit an overpriced one lol

As much as I like GateKeeper I have to agree with this, the $25-28 mil CP dropped on GateKeeper could've gotten them an RMC treatment for Mean Streak, plus another smaller attraction like a Premier custom launcher, or a Euro fighter etc; In terms of receiving a return on investment, I remember Kinzel on record saying TTD was the biggest mistake he'd ever made. Maybe at the time it was considering all the problems but GK to me was a bigger mistake (even though he didn't make it) just because it was so damn expensive and will never get the attention/hype/fan appreciation of TTD.

It's so sad how this park was pretty much a place for other parks to dump their unwanted rides in. I always thought it was odd how during the Premier era, they were absolutely pumping money into places like SFA, Six Flags Ohio, Six Flags Marine World etc; Darien Lake and Six Flags America get 20 million dollar hypers while AW gets an SLC clone. Very very sad

^great pics