YoshiFan

I think they didn't find out until afterwards. The ride opened later than expected because they had to reprogram the rides to not be able to run together. The park is very crowded today. Batman had a reported 90 minute line. Skull Mountain had almost a full queue. Bizarro's line was to the entrance without the 3rd set of switchbacks used.

Supposedly it was crowded. There was a race, concert, enthusiast event and it was bring a friend free. I think it will be crowded today too. Nice weather, and bring a friend free is still valid. Maybe with the first full day of the NFL season and no events at the park today will keep some people away.

Yankee Cannonball at Canobie Lake.

All kiddie coasters that require a kid to ride. Woodstock's Express at Cedar Point and Air Grover at Busch Gardens Tampa because both had long lines. All coasters at Steel Pier. I didn't feel like spending close to $8 for a spinning mouse and almost $5 for a kiddie coaster. Non fastpass side of Primeval Whirl. Invertigo at Kings Island, I hate Stinger at Dorney and didn't feel like waiting for a clone of Stinger. Firehawk at Kings Island, I didn't want to wait 90 minutes for the coaster.

I went to the park on Labor Day a few years ago. It wasn't very crowded, the ride side was walk ons and the waterpark had short waits.

I prefer Top Thrill Dragster. The lap bars are much better than the shoulder restraints and Kingda Ka has been running horribly rough this year. The past few years it was tolerable if you went for one of the first 4 or 5 rows and my last ride earlier in the season was bad even in the 2nd row. I have been skipping it on a lot of trips because it's not worth the wait only to get a headache. I like the air time hill at the end of Kingda Ka but I'd take Top Thrill Dragster any day even without the extra hill.

They also no longer allow single riders on Pirates of Wildwood.

I hope Thunderhawk keeps the buzzbars. PTC's headquarters are 40 minutes from the park so the can't get parts excuse doesn't make sense. As for competing with Hershey and Great Advneture I don't think anything Dorney adds will have an impact. I don't like Stinger but it was still another coaster for the park. If Great Adventure or Hershey had added it, there would have been lines for it especially when it first opened. I went to Dorney on Sunday of opening weekend and for Stinger's 2nd day of operation and it was 10 minutes. It was the same with Hydra's opening day. The line got up to 20 minutes at the most. As much as I'd like a major new coaster at Dorney, I'm ok with what they have now and when I want to ride coasters I go to Great Adventure. When I want to spend a lot of time in a water park with some coaster rides thrown in, I go to Dorney.

I don't think Dorney is neglected, Cedar Fair has added something almost every year since they took over the park. 2015 - Cedar Creek Flyers 2014 - Snake Pit 2012 - Stinger 2011 - Planet Snoopy 2010 - Demon Drop 2009 - Good Time Theater 2008 - Possessed 2007 - Aqua Racer 2005 - Hydra 2004 - Revolution 2003 - 10 new slides for WWK 2002 - Meteor 2001 - Talon 2000 - Camp Snoopy 1999 - Dominator 1998 - Hangtime 1997 - Steel Force 1994 - Thunder Canyon and Road Rally 1993 - White Water Landing and Cedar Creek Cannonball

Both are excellent rides but I like Millennium Force more.

A - Adventure Express B - Banshee C - Cheetah Hunt D - Diamondback E - El Toro F - Fahrenheit G - Great Bear H - Hydra I - Iron Dragon J - Jack Rabbit (Kennywood) K - Kumba L - Lightning Racer M - Millennium Force N - Nitro O - Outer Limits Flight of Fear (Kings Island, using the old name since that's the only coaster with an O I have ridden) P - Phantom's Revenge Q - None R - Raptor (Cedar Point) S - sooperdooperlooper T - Talon U - Untamed V - Vortex (Kings Island) W - White Lightning X - Xcelerator Y - Yankee Cannonball Z - Zoomerang (Lake Compounce)

Nice report. I went to the park on the Monday after July 4th (when it also was on a Saturday) and it was crowded but it doesn't sounds as bad as Friday was. 2.5 hours for the singler rider line at Zumanjaro is amazing, I know sometimes it is just as bad the regular line or even worse and wonder how long the standby line was. I'll only use it if hardly any people are in line since there are times that only 1 or 2 people are taken from the single rider line per cycle and sometimes none are taken.

They aren't supposed to put strangers in the same section of the boat. I have been put in the same boat with strangers but with the seat divider I have always had my own section.

Thank you both for the replies.

I got a few Hurricane Harbor questions for anyone that has been there in the past few years. I have been hesitant to go to Hurricane Harbor because of all the problems I hear but haven't been to a water park yet this year and didn't renew my Dorney pass this year so I'm probably going to try it sometime in July (on a weekday). If you park first in the Hurricane Harbor lot using a gold pass, can you then leave and go to the theme park parking lot will they not allow that (multiple lot entries in the same day) and if so I guess I need to park at theme park entrance and take the shuttle over? I see there is tube rental and Flash Pass. If you get Flash Pass, do you bypass the wait to get a tube if you don't rent a tube rental or are you better off just renting a tube without Flash Pass to avoid the tube lines before you get to the stairs? This is one reason I am hesitant to go because I heard waits can be long even on the stairs past the Flash Pass merge point even if I buy the Flash Pass. I know King Cobra has a 200 pound weight limit. I looked up the rider access guide for the other tube slides and the only restriction I saw was a 400 pound weight limit for double riders. Someone in a TripAdvisor review mentioned all tube slides have a 200 pound weight limit for single riders. Is it just King Cobra with the 200 pound weight limit? Thanks

For Great Adventure all rides are available on all levels of Flashpass (last year Zumanjaro was on gold and platinum only). The only rides that don't allow double rides are El Diablo and I think possibly Zumanjaro. There are no reservation limits. Dorney has early entry but it isn't more than a ride or two. I know the wavepool has early access but not sure if this year any coasters are open early. Fast Lane is not needed at Dorney unless you were planning to go to the water park where there are lines but even then only 7 slides and the 2 lazy rivers are on Fast Lane Plus. Kennywood's VIP has you select a row for the coasters and a time window to come back for each coaster that is spread throughout the day usually around an hour between each coaster. They give you a landyard that has the coaster name and then get it gets punched out on the lanyard when you ride that coaster. It is reasonably priced at around $15 or $20. I was planning to buy it but when I was there all rides were walk ons except Phantom's Revenge so I don't remember the exact price.

Giant Supermarkets usually sell discounted tickets. A few years ago I think it was around $12 off the gate price.

Gatekeeper at Cedar Point

Yeah it seems random when they close it off or keep it open. I have seen it open with a 10 minute wait and closed when there is a 45 minute wait. It's also so far in the queue when it's a really long line it won't save much time and seems to work best when it is a 15 to 20 minute wait when you can usually walk right on using the single rider line. Zumanjaro's single rider line seems to vary. Sometimes they take 3 or 4 people per cycle other times 0 or 1 so I only use it if there are around 15 or less people in line.

It will likely be crowded. Its still bring a friend free for pass holders, there is a charity walk and a couple of magic shows. As for Fright Fest, I only will go to the park on Friday nights or Columbus Day. Friday nights generally have low crowds (the first one last year was an exception), even Halloween which I thought would be crowded was 5 to 10 minute waits all night. This year Halloween is on a Saturday so I expect it to be much more crowded than last year.

El Toro 2 days ago

Yeah today was a great day to be at the park. If Kingda Ka had been open and Superman had been open more of the day I think lines would have been even shorter the entire day. There were some points where the coasters did get some lines, El Toro had the 1st set of switchbacks full and Zumanjaro was about 30 minutes in the afternoon but overall, most lines were 10 minutes or less. Tomorrow and Friday should be more crowded. Tomorrow is Student Council Day which means a few thousand extra kids on class trips and Friday is Grad Nite, where normally the school trips leave in the afternoon but all the senior trips part of the event will be staying until closing (and past closing for their event).

Superman is also closed with a crane near the lift motor. I just got to the park and it isn't that crowded, Nitro looks like it is just over a 10 minute wait. Edit - Superman opened at around 4 with 1 train and Kingda Ka ran an empty train at around 5:30.

The no single riders on the scrambler annoyed me for years. On Eli Bridge's website it says "Recommend No Single Riders Unless Seat Belts are Installed and Used" and since Dorney's scrambler has seatbelts, single riders should be ok.

There were a lot more school groups in the park on Friday compared to the past 2 weeks. Lines still weren't that bad though except for some reason Skull Mountain had around 30 minute wait when I walked past it. El Toro was also running 1 train for part of the day but they added a 2nd train later. Nitro was dispatching trains very fast with barely any stacking. I thought Zumanjaro was going to open since they had someone at the entrance with the height check stick compared to the past 2 weeks when they had no one there with the entrance chained off with a ride closed sign and there was a line forming but it never opened.