gerstlaueringvar
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^So in this case, all the Chinese knock-off SLC's minus those Shenlin knock-offs are "business" because they did not copy Vekoma's design completely, and the Looping Toboggans are original as well. Copy is copy, there's no excuse. I'm with Intamin on this. They put so much effort to pack a huge amount of fun into a tiny footprint and hire Stengel to calculate it but Mack just...took it.
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Mack did everything on their own for Alpina Blitz, Stengel didn't work with Mack on this project. Coaster nowadays looks very similar, we can see things from different manufacturers that look similar, even the most original coaster shares something in common with other coasters. But Alpina Blitz is very disappointing. Mack should never do things like this even if the park asked them for it, this is the kind of thing that Golden Horse does.
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TPR Scandi Trip 2014 Mini Updates!
gerstlaueringvar replied to robbalvey's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Looks super fun! American Thunder is one of the best woodies and I think Thunderbird would be even better for not being at Six Flags. -
Zippers?
gerstlaueringvar replied to leviathandude306's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
I talked to Chance about Zippers at IAAPA, they said they are still producing them. -
Roughest coaster
gerstlaueringvar replied to jbuck's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Same here! I think enthusiasts ignore the roughness when a coaster has crazy airtime and focus on roughness when a coaster is boring. -
Ferrari World Discussion Thread
gerstlaueringvar replied to Captain Jack's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
It's great to hear something new is coming up! They have the fastest coaster in the world, maybe the longest coaster is coming up next since they cannot build the tallest coaster. -
Photo TR: Andy's Texas/Midwest TPR Tour
gerstlaueringvar replied to The Great Zo's topic in Photo Trip Report Archive
^ Same here, I didn't want to brace For the whole time so I put my hands up as high as I can. The second day, my arms felt like after a huge amount of work out. -
Both the layouts looks amazing and nobody will complain about the 16 inversion coaster "cheating" because it doesn't have two lifts. Just seeing Golden Horse breaking Gerstlauer's record feels so... uncomfortable. I'm clearly biased but I am a Golden a Horse hater.
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TPR Scandi Trip 2014 Mini Updates!
gerstlaueringvar replied to robbalvey's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
Proposing at the top of a StarFlyer in Stockholm? That's the second most romantic thing I've ever seen! (The first one is Robb and Elissa's wedding video ) The day looks epic! Can't wait to visit the park in 2016!!! -
Hi, it's so nice that you can talk about this here, congratulations on your cooperation with all these companies! Did Golden Horse come to you? Have you used those techniques that Gerstlauer, GCI, RMC use on the 16 Inversion coaster to add airtime to unexpected places? Is Golden Horse manufacturing the motor system, control system and the train? Most importantly, are you afraid that they will screw up your design? The layout is really awesome but Golden Horse's manufacturing skill is not even one of the best in China. P.S. I apologize for the tone of my comments.
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Photo TR: Andy's Texas/Midwest TPR Tour
gerstlaueringvar replied to The Great Zo's topic in Photo Trip Report Archive
I love your photos! They look fantastic! Still remember the huge spider hanging on the seat in front of me on Maverick, it's super gross but incredible. The spider sure knows where to live. -
Please don't. Camiel definitely has a bright future but he is doing it wrong. When I talked with Golden horse at IAAPA, they said that an experienced German engineer is working with them on the layout design, track calculation, control system and the train design. Is there anyone in the world who can actually step into these four fields together? I think Golden Horse did not take me seriously and exaggerated things trying to make those two CoasterLab coasters more "convincing". Poor Camiel, I feel that Golden Horse is using his name to promote things far more than what they agreed in the contract.
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^^^ They don't lack creativity, nobody in the world lack creativity other than B&M's layout designers. They are just lazy and think all their customers are dump that they won't realize that the rides are the same but without the quality. ^This is from Shijinghan park's marketing Vice President. The park CEO suffered from serious back injury after riding Shenzhou coaster.
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We as enthusiasts can and should do more to protect and defend the companies who create the roller coasters and rides we love so much, if that means boycotting all these Chinese companies and the people who work for or with them, I think that is a fairly easy thing to do. I won't be riding this persons creations, now or ever. Not all of them. I respect those who created original layouts and designed their own systems. Regardless their past, if they are doing original things now, I will ride the original ones just to show them my respect because they are at least going forward. Golden Horse coasters, on the other hand, are the choices while I am too dirty to even be a credit whore.
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I'm just saying that there is a difference between making a concept art and manufacturing the real thing. CoasterLab makes amazing looking coaster concept art but building a real train that takes everything into consideration is even more complicated than making a layout. Camiel is a talented man, but Golden Horse is not a good place for his own development. People complain about Lightning Run's train looking weird(it looks great IMO), if Camiel is working at Ride Centerline, probably not even Il Tempo Extra Gigante will be the best looking coaster train. RCD interviewed Golden Horse about their rides not being original before, their excuse is that their technology hasn't reached the requirements of creating their own coasters.
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^ That's nothing, Shibaolai's first SLC has a ONE METER difference!!!!! But after ten years, Wanda ordered a custom designed SLC from Shibaolai. Which proved how much they had improved since Shenzhou Coaster.
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^ You are understanding it right. I think they redo a new track piece that looks and feels painful to connect it. Now their accuracy can be controlled under 1 cm which I still think is way too much but they seem to be proud of. Sorry for being too aggressive about Golden Horse, when talking about Vekoma, I'm joking because they do make smooth and great rides. When talking about Golden Horse, I mean it. They should never make anything! At lest the other knock-off companies know how to change things a bit, even Jiuhua started to do original layouts, even though they are painful, they will get better. Golden Horse only knows how to piss Zamperla off at IAAPA and promote something way out of their league.
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Roughest coaster
gerstlaueringvar replied to jbuck's topic in Theme Parks, Roller Coasters, & Donkeys!
I would consider it rough... Or did you buy your watch at IKEA? -
Never! Golden Horse is Golden Horse. A knock-off company can never suddenly become Gerstlauer because they work with their employee. I don't think coaster-lab has enough ability, Camiel cannot suddenly turn a bunch of people who only knows how to copy into Alan Schilke. Not even Alan Schilke himself, not even Werner Stengel. Yes, Camiel designs awesome looking trains but building a real one takes years of development and requires a huge amount of mechanical engineering knowledge which I assume he doesn't meet the requirement given that he is only 20 or 21. Golden Horse is Golden Horse, their construction and manufacturing standard will not allow them to build original, compact and high tech rides. The track difference of their SLC's construction reached 5 cm before which I assume not even a 1920s wooden coaster is that inaccurate. I even think their crew don't even know what heartline is, they just copy, copy and copy. When a layout like that is build by those people, we don't even need to imagine how painful it will be. Uncle Anton and Werner Stengel started using heartline on small banked turns and made them perfect, Golden Horse... Well... Is definitely pushing themselves too far.
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(Photo TR): Ccron10's TPR Midwest Journey
gerstlaueringvar replied to Ccron10's topic in Photo Trip Report Archive
Great photos! Thanks for bringing back the memory.
