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^ Yup. Movie Town Water Effect is literally RIGHT next to Chiller (only a few feet from it). To get an idea of just how close MTWE is to B&R:TC -- http://www.amusementpics.com/SFGAdvNotesFall2007/092907-032.jpg

Press Release via PRNewswire --

I'm sure some of you are aware of this, but just for those that don't know --- The O.D. Hopkins Shoot-the-Chute ride next to Chiller (Movie Town Water Effect) is being taken out too for The Dark Knight.

A roller coaster on the scale of a B&M Dive Machine won't be going into Great America if Shapiro still stands by his word of cutting down on resources spent on capital spending. SheiKra and Griffon were each in the ballpark of $15,000,000 USD. For one SheiKra-sized Diving Machine for just one park, you could build two The Dark Knight coasters for two parks or two Evel Knievel woodies for two parks.

^ I am confident enough to say that if Cedar Fair had announced Geauga Lake's Headspin for Michigan's Adventure next year, even THAT would be considered a major addition. A roller coaster with a boomerang and loop (firsts for the park), AND it goes backwards too! Locals would go crazy for that. I could totally see a Boomerang being a huge hit at Michigan's Adventure. The guests sure ate up the one at Worlds of Fun. Which brings me to believe that Headspin should have gone into Michigan's Adventure this year and saved the SLC for a year or two down the road. Because Michigan's Adventure is the only park in the chain I could really see benefiting from a Vekoma Boomerang.

Well the Great Adventure rides page was updated today and The Chiller was finally removed from it. Just an FYI. http://www.sixflags.com/greatAdventure/rides/ThrillRides.aspx

^^ Nope. Cedar Point and Magic Mountain are home to the only two remaining 1st Generation Intamin Freefalls in the States.

Yup, the one thing that nobody could argue is that Windjammer was a pretty ride and very well themed. Especially the amount of effort put into the theming around it really showed how the Knott's family did things as opposed to the Cedar Fair way after it was bought out a few months after WJ's opening. I clearly remember the stamped boardwalk walkways around the ride; all the beach sand underneath the ride with the beach props like umbrellas, sandbuckets/shovels; the faux-yacht that served as the on-ride photo sales booth; the large lagoon under the coaster where you could drive remote control boats; and the ride operator booth that was themed as a lifeguard tower.

The Chiller is a Six Flags Inc. assett. Great America is a Cedar Fair park. I don't think Six Flags plans on selling that ride to a competing company.

Rumors point out that Magic Mountain's Freefall will be discontinued sometime after Fright Fest 2007 concludes. My guess is that will go down around the same time Flashback is being taken apart.

^ It's the same logo/lettering from when it was at Geauga Lake. All they did was add the ghoulish-looking hawk on top of it.

Haha! Same here. My very first looper and I was scared to death of roller coasters at that time. I vividly remember when it first came out in 1997 -- I was in fifth grade, about 10 or 11 years old. I'm glad to say I was one of a very select few that actually liked the ride. It was the ride that made me become an enthusiast -- it's true no matter how ridiculous that may sound. I was a bit sad when they finally took it down in 2000. Lots of memories with that one. Just wish it was better designed then it wouldn't have had all those maintenance issues... I still have a Windjammer keychain around here somewhere and a bunch of disposable camera photos I took of it (YES! RACING BOTH SIDES!). Some of my pictures of the ride are up on Duane's site (RCDB).

1. Most of the mazes rank pretty up there in scare factor -- though some moreso than others. The event is definitely not for the faint of heart -- and I mean that. That's why they recommend guests ages 13 and under to not participate. I wouldn't even say there is a "mild" maze attraction. From what I've read so far about this season's mazes, I would tell you to avoid The Grudge 2 and The Doll Factory mazes like the plague, as they are probably the freakiest mazes this year. However, there are scare-zones where monsters lurk outside of the maze attractions that are less scary and heart-attack inducing -- mostly because you're not confined in a small space like in the mazes. But then again, most people go for the mazes, not the open scare zones. 2. Depending on the nights, most queue waits for the major attractions skyrocket to a point where it can get pretty ridiculous. I have waited nearly 2 hours for Xcelerator before on a past Haunt night and 1 hour and 45 minutes for Silver Bullet on another Haunt visit. The park is usually very good about posting queue wait times during Haunt on portable signs -- and if you feel like you must go on a certain ride, make sure you ask an employee how long the queue wait might be. You don't want to waste 1 hour waiting for Boomerang on a Haunt night when you could be in one of the mazes. 3. The event has a pretty good safety record. The park is fully staffed with security -- especially in the mazes. You'll be surprised how quickly you'll be grabbed by the arm out of seemingly nowhere and kicked out of a maze for just pretending to mess around with the props. It's pretty safe.

I also got a 7/10. I got a 74/100 on the Coaster Quiz A.

Ya, a lot of people assume longer lines always means a more popular ride. Hardly the case sometimes... As for Viper being one of the more popular rides, I wouldn't go as far to say that. It's definitely not one of the least popular, but not one of the top 3 either. From what I've seen and heard, Goliath, Tatsu, and Batman are usually the most popular with guests at the park. But I guess it varies.

^ Yup. If someone had told me 10 years ago that a big inverted coaster and a medium-sized spinning-car coaster would both be at Knott's in the Northeast section of the park, I would have totally called B.S. Parks can find and make space when they need to.

^ Batman The Dark Knight got renamed Batman The Ride. I just think it'll be a bit confusing for some guests come next season. 'Cause I know most people find "Batman" and "Dark Knight" interchangeable. Wonder if people will get them mixed up. They'll probably just call it "the purple looping one" and the other one "the Space Mountain one."

^ Oh okay, that would make more sense. I just read the first sentence of that e-mail and it matched that of the one on the press release. They just reworded everything else after that in the press release on their website.

I think the 36 is the number of total guests that can be seated during the ride with all vehicles in operation. Mack Mouse coasters seat 4 people per "train" or "car" right? So divide 36 by 4. You get the number of trains that will be on the coaster! = 9! EDIT: Just looked at the RCDB pages and it says each of the Dark Knight coasters will have 8 cars. So it should really be 32?

As much as I love Deja Vu and sometimes like X (that ride is just too unpredictable and moody), I really think it would be in the best interest to remove them too. For a park as big as Magic Mountain that draws relatively large crowds during its peak season -- and is known for poor operations, low capacity rides like Deja Vu and X just don't make sense being there. If the new trains for X and the rumored redesign of the loading area finally bumps up capacity, I can see it working out, but Deja Vu will always have that poor PPH. So I say get it out of there. It's for these reasons I hope Magic Mountain doesn't get one of these Tony Hawk or Dark Knight coasters. The capacity is almost just as bad! I'm sure there's some sort of family-coaster alternative that will suit this park's crowds.

Yeah, but if you read the first post in this thread you'll see that it was mentioned in the original press release. I'm just pointing out that they changed it.

^ Good one. Didn't think of GhostRider. It feels like you're going to be ejected from the train and be thrown into the ceiling of that drop cover on the way down.

Hmm. I went to the press release document on SFoG's website and it makes absolutely no mention of Thomas Town replacing Deja Vu.

^ I highly doubt it... It was announced with the new Wiggles World, Thomas Town, and two new Tony Hawk coasters afterall...it's just very strange. Don't know what could be the reason behind it.

Yes, I have ridden a Premier Spaghetti Bowl coaster before. It's the fact that you mentioned -- going through the inversions rapidly that keeps you in your seat. Hanging through Viper's corkscrews slowly, secured only by a lapbar? Thrown through Montu's batwing, secured only by a lapbar? Tossed through Superman Krypton Coaster's zero-G roll, secured only by a lapbar? I still hold my ground.