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^ It's not called lying. It's just they haven't updated their website to reflect their intentions with the ride.

You should write captions for a living.

You make it sound like Six Flags Over Texas is clone city... I don't hear Six Flags Great America fans complaining with what they have, and if anything THEY should have a right to complain ---- Superman Ultimate Flight - Clone Vertical Velocity - Clone Viper - Similar (Mirror image Coney Island Cyclone) Ragin' Cajun - Clone Deja Vu - Clone Spacely's Sprocket Rockets - Clone Demon - Clone Batman The Ride - Clone Whizzer - Clone (The other one was removed from CA's Great America)

^ The Batman side actually never reopened (after the reprofiling). Robin only did.

When it's said that teens don't spend money at the parks, it's just that. They don't spend a fraction as much as families, if at all. Majority of the groups of teens that visit parks don't blow cash on souvenirs, premium line passes, sit-down restaurants, valet parking the way a father of a family of four will. In the following, when I say teens, I mean A GREAT DEAL OF the teens that visit amusement parks, NOT every case, but MANY cases. Teens ask for cups of water with their single slice of pizza rather than buy the souvenir cup, teens don't pay for valet parking, teens cut in line, teens use derogatory language and are loud, teens run and chase each other around the park, teens smoke outside designated areas, teens deface park property. Again, not to say that non-teens don't do any of that, but out of ALL the targeted demographics that amusement parks draw, they make up the majority of all the activities and offenses I have just described. You know it too. How many families fit those descriptions when at amusement parks? Yes you are. Teens with a season pass use amusement parks as loitering zones. Bored with nothing to do after school? Go the park and loiter. Nothing to do on a Friday afternoon? Have mom drop me and some friends off to go run around and burn off the sugar. It's a babysitting service, simply put. See, that's a bad way of looking at things. Saying those kinds of things in attempt to get people to sympathize with you...If Six Flags Over Texas were my home park, I really would not be saying the kinds of things you're saying. I'd be contempt with all the rides they've been getting SINCE Titan. Especially when you have parks like Six Flags America where NOTHING, not even a new flatride has been introduced since Batwing. You know, having hobbies outside of amusement parks and roller coasters can help. When people get this distressed about lack of a new roller coaster at the local amusement park, it's a sure sign they need to have something more important in life to worry or complain about.

If I remember correctly, the gigantic Superman Tower of Power was added in 2003 -- followed by the 10 (yeah, that's A LOT) family/"tweener" rides in 2006. That's plenty of new and you have to admit, fun attractions, even if they aren't roller coasters. Six Flags Over Texas has been receiving a well-balanced capital plan -- thrill rides and family attractions alike are built. Unlike a certain park called Magic Mountain during the late-90's early 00's, which led to its near demise with the new management. Parks that keep their attractions line-up well balanced usually do better with attendance than those that don't. I mean come on, Great America hasn't introduced a roller coaster since 2004 and their last "big" roller coaster was Superman Ultimate Flight in 2003. Yet, it still manages to now surpass the roller coaster infested Magic Mountain in annual attendance figures.

That park had 10 roller coasters before X-Flight and Steel Venom were ripped out. How many parks out there actually have as many? The whole "people don't want to come back and ride the same old same old" argument is not valid, especially in this case. What kind of company is going to spend millions of dollars in a 10-roller coaster park that couldn't pull in more than 700,000 people in one season? We call that losing money. Cedar Fair did the appropriate investments in Geauga Lake that showed they hoped for signs of improvement. Updating restrooms. Repainting rides. Upgrading restaurants. The kind of improvements Six Flags failed to do. Six Flags dropped 5 new roller coasters and rebranded the park. Attendance rose a little bit for one season. Just ONE season. Then it took a nosedive. So don't pretend to think that Cedar Fair's lack of putting in a new roller coaster caused for Geauga Lake's demise and all its problems.

Wasn't Magic Mountain's Scream! rumored to go to Six Flags Over Texas at one point? Though I think there is absolutely no validity in that rumor, I will still say that Scream! would have been a better fit at Over Texas than at Magic Mountain. Not only the fact that Magic Mountain already had two gigantic 6+ loop roller coasters before Scream! came along, it's just that we honestly did not need that roller coaster -- especially right after X's inaugaral year. Don't get me wrong, Scream! is a great ride, but I know what a poor business decision looks like and it looks like Scream! being built at Magic Mountain.

^ Are you really 44 years old? Why don't you act your age? Of course it's unevitable. Never will you escape the hoardes of complainers everytime a multi-million dollar ride is introduced. If the park doesn't build something, they b*tch. If they build something, they still b*tch.

I don't understand that logic. 5 hours is far enough to a point where these parks serve completely different markets. I live 5 hours away from Discovery Kingdom but I have never visited it once before -- and for good reason. It's out of the way. I'm sure those that live around Fiesta Texas are able to say the same about Over Texas -- and vice versa.

^ Don't think it'll be smaller. According to the article: Looks to be a clone of the Fiesta Texas one.

Read the article here: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/245840.html Should expect the formal announcement sometime this week.

Oh okay. I misinterpreted your typing. If anything it'll be some generic name. $20 it will be called Thunderhawk.

Magic Mountain: Tatsu Knott's Berry Farm: Xcelerator Disneyland: Space Mountain

I'm not sure I would, but I would still like Stealth back. Maybe if BB had been built somewhere else (though I don't know where). Anyone got any ideas for a name? I don't think Texas Twister would fit (although it was in Ohio) and I don't think Tomb Raider is possible. Will they go with Thunderhawk like WoF? Or Riptide like the floorless top spins at VF and KBF? A new name and logo? With all the rides on the way out of Geauga Lake, Great America is not going to get a brand new Top Spin like the $3-million-a-piece Floorless ones at Knott's and Valleyfair! What WILL happen is Texas Twister will be relocated there, be repainted, renamed and then reintroduced as if it were a brand new ride.

You saying spinning coasters aren't great is your opinion. Stop talking about them like that as if it's fact.

The new thrillride going into Great America next season IS going to be the Texas Twister HUSS Top Spin relocated from Geauga Lake. It's not an S&S Screaming Swing or a new roller coaster.

Double Loop would be worth more as scrap metal payment than to be relocated and marketed as a new attraction. I'm quite certain that Cedar Fair will put it up for sale or junk it on the spot.

Haha. It's just a logo. Don't read too far into it.

^ Nothing is definite right now...aside from Steel Venom going to Dorney Park. I've been hearing a lot of rumors about where some of the rides may go. Been reading a lot about Dominator posibbly going to Kings Dominion and Thunderhawk into Michigan's Adventure. My assumption is that Big Dipper and Raging Wolf Bobs will be scrapped. The Villain MAY have a chance of being moved since it's a hybrid structure -- but even so, it could also be junked. Double Loop will probably go up for sale.

What part of Geauga Lake becoming exclusively a water park did you not understand?

Check out this cute little home-made backyard woodie that looks like it could possibly have crazier ejector air than El Toro!

KBF will get Double Loop? HAHAHAHAHA. Yeah. They're going to follow up the extreme Xcelerator, relatively huge Silver Bullet, and wackily unique Sierra Sidewinder with a 1977 Double Loop. Please. We all know Double Loop is scrap metal. KBF getting Double Loop is as likely as Cedar Point putting in Headspin.

When did Cedar Fair officials ever lie about what they were going to do with Geauga Lake? Never did they once ever promise Geauga Lake would continually remain an amusement park. You just assumed this on your own. Nobody lied. It's all in your head. When people get angry and upset, they start pointing fingers and blantantly accusing things by making things up in their head so they have somebody to blame.

I can say without remorse that I could care less than The Villain, Raging Wolf Bobs, and Giant Dipper are not being relocated and are being scrapped for their timber. Those three are by far the worst wooden roller coasters I have EVER ridden, coincedentally all in the same park. Only The Villain is somewhat just below average, but that's even giving it too much credit. All three were terrible rides, in my opinion. Got off each and never looked back once. Moving an 80+ year wooden roller coaster that's by far the most obsolete construction and design ever (excluding the "only enthusiasts care" historic value of the ride) is not a smart business move. If they're to take down the Big Dipper just to move it, they might as well just build Great America a brand new wooden roller coaster. Not only would it be more cost effective, it would be thrilling more thrilling and up-to-date. I've ridden the Big Dipper before and believe me, you DO NOT want that ride at your park, no matter how historical it is. No matter how well you market a ride as historically important to the industry, if the ride is sh*t, the general riding public could really give a rats ass about its history.