TheoB Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 It's interesting to see them use the old school trains/restraints on a larger scale dive machine. I guess that just goes to show how it's a park's decision and not B&M's. I would say it's definitely B&M's. They design the ride, after all. Also, if this IS a straight clone of Griffon, then that layout would call for the old trains anyway, even though these are 8-across instead of 10-across. The park definitely get some say in the restraints but honestly with the much slimmer and smaller Asian demographic, the big (and not very nice) vest restraints are pretty unnecessary. I don't know why more parks haven't got the restraints OzIris has which are 1.3m invert ones (or maybe Merlin just bumps up the Nemesis's height restrictions to be inline with everything else I don't know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Maybe it's just me, but do you honestly think a park goes straight to B&M or Intamin or whoever, and specifically says, "Hey, we want a new coaster with this specific type of restraint"? I would honestly like to learn if there's an example where that happened. I'm genuinely curious, actually. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 ^I could see a park like Gyeongju World asking for the same restraints as their other B&M for maintenance and safety reasons. Especially when they're so far away, it probably makes it easier for parts and maintenance to at least have two VERY similar coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invertalon Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) Or the park representatives discovered how crappy the vest restraints are and went with the best train for the style of ride... I really dislike them on Dive Coasters, they don't exactly compliment that style of ride experience IMO. They feel more open, sure, but are more restrictive at the same time in some ways. Banshee is fine with them, but B&M went weird with the transitions and such on that ride so it's hard to gauge how they would be on a normal ride. If I ever bought a Dive Coaster though, I would demand the classic OTSR's (or hell, even lapbars!). A.J... the park has the choice unless the manufacturer has "obsoleted" the type of restraint. It is an option for the park if multiple variants are available. I know for a fact with one park they had tested a B&M clam-shell lapbar on a looping model but the park ultimately decided against it (due to management decision at said park). Not exactly the same, but goes to show the park can even "downgrade" what could be an epic change to improve the ride experience. Edited April 10, 2018 by Invertalon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 The other thing to bear in mind is how long this coaster was in the works and planning stage. This coaster went through some other themes and different opening dates. I don't know the industry at all but i'm curious, could it have been a case that when the park brought the ride agreed the layout etc. that the new vest style trains weren't available? I'd imagine trains size e.g. 8 vs 10 seats, restraints, look, and how many would be part of the signing on the dotted line. I'm also still curious about that second drop. It looks like a steep drop compared to a vertical one. Is it the same on the other coasters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11slataus Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 The other thing to bear in mind is how long this coaster was in the works and planning stage. This coaster went through some other themes and different opening dates. I don't know the industry at all but i'm curious, could it have been a case that when the park brought the ride agreed the layout etc. that the new vest style trains weren't available? I'd imagine trains size e.g. 8 vs 10 seats, restraints, look, and how many would be part of the signing on the dotted line. I'm also still curious about that second drop. It looks like a steep drop compared to a vertical one. Is it the same on the other coasters? I thought that Griffon and Sheikra’s second drops weren’t quite vertical. (Not sure about Valravn’s). But I do think that their second drops are steeper than this new one. Maybe a minor design change for some reason? Does that drop maybe not go as deep as Griffon’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 ^It definitely does not look as steep as the usual second drops on big dive coasters. I know for a fact with one park they had tested a B&M clam-shell lapbar on a looping model but the park ultimately decided against it (due to management decision at said park). OMG that would've been amazing. I've wondered quite a few times why it still hasn't happened and I remember a few years ago when, before IAAPA, Robb allowed us to suggest questions for him to ask to the manufacturers and one of my suggestions (and maybe someone else's) was precisely that one (why they hadn't used lapbars on looping rides) to which Walter Bolliger answered "I do not want to answer that question." It made me even more curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 New Video with some POV [fbvideonew] [/fbvideonew] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted April 12, 2018 Author Share Posted April 12, 2018 More photos courtesy of the parks facebook page Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordyC Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Looks awesome! I really like that dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Looks awesome! I really like that dragon. One more for you then Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordyC Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Looks awesome! I really like that dragon. One more for you then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 It's had riders Entrance shot POV: [fbvideonew] [/fbvideonew] Usual Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11slataus Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Nice POV shots in the video! Looks like B&M updated the shaping on the turn after the splashdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 Gyengju World have announced the retirement of their drop tower today: Source Had planned on hitting the park to try out the new RMC Raptor, but waiting for the Intamin Swinging Ferris Wheel for 2025 to open, since I've always wanted to try out one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted Sunday at 09:04 AM Author Share Posted Sunday at 09:04 AM Visited Gyeongju World on Saturday. We had been in the city to visit the historical sites and stay at a pool villa. We went to Gyeongju World in the middle of a three-day weekend, and although the crowd didn't look too bad, lines were very long so mostly just took pictures. Opening crowds didn't look too bad but by the time we were in the park. Draken, Valkyrie, and the new RMC Raptor lines were already spilling out of their areas. Most of the new rides are all located in the same area so all the crowds surged to the right so we went to the left and grabbed a few smaller or older rides. The place still looks as well kept asmy visit when Draken first opened. Time Rider, the new Intamin hotness sadly didn't open in May, but it's opening will be late June. Early bird tickets will be on sale soon but when the Raptor had that sale they sold out in 30 seconds. It was already 33C when we visited so I'll wait for the new hotness and literal hotness to disappear before I head out to try it. Heading into Draken Valley to check out where all the new rides are. Valkyrie is a new family shuttle coaster. It starts with a backwards climb, two forward loops and then a backwards loop. With one train only and 3 laps the line was 80 minutes but the children wanted to ride it. I think even on quieter days line can still be long due to capacity but thankfully like many new rides.... ... Gyeongju World have benches installed in all their new ride lines. A great addition I wish more parks had. This was Wizard's Race to replace the old double helix power coaster. I don't know how Zamperla did it but somehow they made this new replacement rough in 6 months and a slam into the brakes that made me think it was the same as the 30 year old one it replaced. The park like all Korean parks sells fold out stools for people. Some people made sure to get their money's worth even when benches were available. Draken line was spilling out but out of all 5 coasters is the only one that can really people eat and keep the crowds moving. I didn't ride this time, I've done plenty in the past and was with a family group. Was tempted to ride Klake but line was also a minimum wait of 90 minutes. Some photos of the new RMC Raptor, Skoll & Hati. Really torn on missing this credit and my first ever RMC but the line never dropped below at least 120 minutes and it didn't feel fair to leave all the family behind. I also figured I'll be back late fall/early winter or sometime soon since I really want to try out a Coaster Wheel and the coaster will hopefully be around for a long time to get that ride in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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