Does six flags have the answer to line jumping?

[jamesdillaman]

^The answer is always Tasers. Or sharks.

 

dt

 

Sharks... WITH tasers.

[nitrofan]

I think the best solution is handing out the tickets at the front of the line and checking the order of the numbers at the end of the line. No ticket, no ride. Ticket out of order, end of the line. I've seen that system in use several times at Six Flags and it worked very well. They could even laminate the cards and reuse them to save money on the copies of the tickets.

[DBru]

^But then what happens when someone decides to leave the line for some reason?

 

If an attendant sees that the number skips from 3 to 7...how does s/he decide whether #7 is a line jumper, or if #4-6 simply left the line to go do something else?

[ArizonaGuy]

^^

I'd say the answer would simple. If there is a large change in number sequence. We're talking like 30-50 or even up to 100.

[jamesdillaman]

plus, if numbers are missing, no big deal, as long as they are still in numerical order. It's when a higher number is followed by lower that the problem arises...

[DBru]

But...wouldn't you have to let the higher number going ahead into the station before realizing that there was a lower number after him?

 

(Not trying to start an argument...just wondering how the system works, since I've never seen it being used before.)

[nitrofan]

But...wouldn't you have to let the higher number going ahead into the station before realizing that there was a lower number after him?

 

(Not trying to start an argument...just wondering how the system works, since I've never seen it being used before.)

 

When I saw it used, they said your numbers couldn't be more than 10 away from the previous number. This allowed for things like people leaving and people not being in the same order in their group. It's not a perfect system, but it worked well.

[jamesdillaman]

Also, it was collected when I've seen it used, before going into the station. In the station you usually have a couple trains worth wait, so there was still time to figure out and find the people who line jumped.

[rcg19]

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[AnEscapeArtist]

The security at Magic Mountain regarding line jumping is pretty lousy. Seems at times security would rather be "cool with" the people that cut in line or smoke in non-designated areas, instead of actually doing their jobs and enforcing the rules.

[thrillrider]

Do any of the other six flags parks have the signs in the Q lines?

 

You think that the parks would want to be on top of the line jumping problem and enforce it. I bet that 9 out of 10 problems like fights at an amusement park, are spawned from line jumping.

[KDCOASTERFAN]

^But then what happens when someone decides to leave the line for some reason?

 

If an attendant sees that the number skips from 3 to 7...how does s/he decide whether #7 is a line jumper, or if #4-6 simply left the line to go do something else?

 

 

Good point,especially in the classic case of ride downtime when most people bail out while only a few diehards tough it out waiting for the ride in question to reopen.

[WFChris]

I have seen the ticket system used at SFMM off and on my whole life. Definitely on Riddlers Revenge, Batman, even Psyclone when it was good. They take it seriously, too. My friend accidentally threw her ticket out with her garbage and they wanted to eject her from the park at the front of the line. Fortunately, the folks behind us vouched for her presence and they let her on. The numbers were allowed to be quite off, I think by at least 20. It is blatantly obvious when the numbers are only off by a little here and there, and then all the sudden there is somebody who's number is 200 off. A line jumper does not just pass 15 people, they JUMP the line. Hence the term.

 

The only problem is that this system requires 2 employees and a great deal of 'non green' paper wasting. One security guard watching the most prone section of the queue would be more cost effective for the park, and would take care of the problem ON THE SPOT, which most honest people love seeing. Nonetheless, the ticket system worked really well and kept the line moving.

[PKI Jizzman]

Tasers. The answer is tasers.

 

I like SWAT's Taser Shockwave.

BUZZZZZZ

[DOCTOR DOOM!!!]

^The answer is always Tasers. Or sharks.

 

dt

 

Sharks... WITH friggin lazer beams attached to their forehead!!!.

 

FIXED!!!

[AndCamSS]

We used to use the ticket system at SFGAm when I worked there, mainly on crowded days. At Raging Bull for example, one person would stand at the entrance and hand the tickets out and the flash pass person would collect them. If the numbers were within 10 or so of each other it was fine, but if someone was way off or didn't have a ticket, they would exit the line at the flash pass entrance. I heard all sorts of excuses, some of which I replied to "Do you not have any idea what the ticket in your hand is for? It says right on the back!". The system worked rather well and the only downside was the ticked off line jumpers being forced to leave. Some didn't want to leave so I would pick up the phone at that entrance and say "Leave the line now or I will call security down here and you will have to leave the park" this would make them leave usually and they would stomp off and give me a dirty look. I would usually wave and smile when they did such things. Little did they know that phone can only call the station or other parts of the ride not security!

[Hercules]

Further, you throw RFID technology in the device and then have scanners at the exit to ensure no one walks out with it.

 

With the cost of system integration, and the cost of either an RFID card or ticket, don't plan on seeing this implemented any time soon.

[themeparkman25]

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[thrillrider]

Or they could just charge a deposit.

[Hercules]

^ And the 3-5 million dollar cost of the system implimentation? How does that get covered?

[thrillrider]

By all the guest that return to the park and spend more money because they were not waiting in lines.