ECZenith Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 http://coasterdynamix.com/forum.aspx?mode=thread&TopicID=1241 For any other CD builder on the site, they have finally released all the details on this new working model coaster. I think I might get one and turn it into a floorless model, the possibilities will be endless!
Cyber.Fiber Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 I am excited about the chaser lights, handrails, pre-moulded track and the station! This will make the whole building time much, much shorter! I can't wait to get one!
DBru Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Glad to see it's only 75% of the price of the Scorpion model; looks much easier to build, too!
GriffyTiffy Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 I was at a hobby convention today and they had a booth. The model was built, and it ran great! The detail was amazing! The man saw me with my TPR sweatshirt and gave me a Phoenix shirt!
Jack Rimer Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 The NoLimits simulator was custom made for us using all of our track, support, base,and train parts. It looks exactly like the model and can also be used as an assembly guide. We ran the model for 4 straight days and it worked great. The shoulder harnesses raise and lower as the train enters and leaves the station. This attracted a lot of attention at the show. Everyone liked the price too. All in all, it was a successful release.
DBru Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 ^Does this kit include more detailed instructions (with words AND pictures)? The Scorpion was impossible for me to figure out...lol
FLIPDUDE Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Coasterdynamix stuff looks so freaking awesome... I would love to own it, but sadlyI can't afford any of it, nor do I have the storage space... Just curious though, isn't the new, figure-8 base for the new model really limiting in terms of layout possibilities?
eBen Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 The base is made out of many smaller pieces that join together (Imagine a Technics Lego straight brick on its side). Does anyone have photos, not graphics of the new set?
Vekoma Fan Boy Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Coasterdynamix stuff looks so freaking awesome... I would love to own it, but sadlyI can't afford any of it, nor do I have the storage space... Just curious though, isn't the new, figure-8 base for the new model really limiting in terms of layout possibilities? Kind of. My main thing is the pre molded track pieces. While they do make assembly much easier, for me they are a put down. Not much of a way to customize the ride and make it your own. I'd still probably buy it for the train and operating station. (Jack, is the Phoenix's operating station and the flex track of the scorpion compatible?)
FLIPDUDE Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 ^Pre molded? I thought that they're %100 flexible?
Vekoma Fan Boy Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 ^Pre molded? I thought that they're %100 flexible? On the Scorpion and Dragon sets they are. On this one they are pre molded rigid sections of track.
Jack Rimer Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 The Phoenix kit will have premolded and flexible pieces. The premolded pieces take a lot of the places where people have trouble (i.e. loops, turns) and make them easier to assemble. We will also be selling expansion packs for the new kit. Here are some pics for those wanting to see some more. CoasterDynamix Phoenix Gallery
KPWoCkAxX Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Would it be a bad idea to re-paint these kits if you don't like the colour? Also are these kits worth buying? They look awesome!
DBru Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 ^If your good with instructions and construction, then definitely! (But the Scorpion was too hard for me to figure out...LOL) How will this model compare with Scorpion on assembly difficulty?
FLIPDUDE Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 Awww, the coasterdynamix models are all so beautifully realistic(as far as flexible models can be, that is), so it pains me to see this(the start of the twist):
Jack Rimer Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 You need to be able to put our goals into perspective here. This is a toy roller coaster kit. We just returned from a show where about 5000 people filed past this model with not a single mention of "the entrance to the twist". That is 5000 potential customers who were more than amazed by what the model COULD do. They didn't know or care what a B&M was. They have no clue what it "should" look like. All they knew was that it was better than anything they had ever seen as a coaster model. These are our customers. This is who we cater to. If you want to build the perfect element, the kit provides you with that opportunity. If you want an easy to assemble model that is the least expensive kit in our product line, then such deviations are a small price to pay. Don't let it pain you...just get one and do it "right".
Jack Rimer Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 ^If your good with instructions and construction, then definitely! (But the Scorpion was too hard for me to figure out...LOL) How will this model compare with Scorpion on assembly difficulty? It was designed to be much easier to assemble. We estimate 2-3 hours assembly time. This kit is designed more for the toy market than the hobby market so it needs to go together quickly and easily. It is also much more durable (trains) than the previous kits.
FLIPDUDE Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 You need to be able to put our goals into perspective here. This is a toy roller coaster kit. We just returned from a show where about 5000 people filed past this model with not a single mention of "the entrance to the twist". That is 5000 potential customers who were more than amazed by what the model COULD do. They didn't know or care what a B&M was. They have no clue what it "should" look like. All they knew was that it was better than anything they had ever seen as a coaster model. These are our customers. This is who we cater to. If you want to build the perfect element, the kit provides you with that opportunity. If you want an easy to assemble model that is the least expensive kit in our product line, then such deviations are a small price to pay. Don't let it pain you...just get one and do it "right". I didn't say that makes it any less marketable. All I said was that as an enthusiast it's a bit sad to see that this track, as opposed to the other ones, isn't fully realistic. Also, I didnt know that you can build your own elements seeing as someone said that the inline twist and loop are not flexible pieces
Jack Rimer Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 It is the SAME EXACT TRACK as the Scorpion. Please read my previous post. The kit is made up of rigid pieces AND the traditional flexible track that we use on the Scorpion and Dragon. That section you have illustrated is completely flex track, however, due to the need to limit the number of supports (ie keep the price down) the entrance to the twist is not "scale". Anyone can make these elements as realistic as they want with the track in this kit.
ECZenith Posted October 22, 2008 Author Posted October 22, 2008 I, for one, am very happy with how this kit turned out and will definately be getting the Phoenix, some expansion sets, and a floorless train ASAP. And lots of paint! Can't wait to see what else you guys have in store for us!
mcjaco Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I didn't say that makes it any less marketable. All I said was that as an enthusiast it's a bit sad to see that this track, as opposed to the other ones, isn't fully realistic. Also, I didnt know that you can build your own elements seeing as someone said that the inline twist and loop are not flexible pieces Which means you missed Jack's point. This model is geared towards the general public more than the "enthusiast." I for one, didn't look at that picture and say, "oh good lord, that's not to scale." At the $150 price point, I find this kit much more easy to stomach, and the trains are gorgeous. Good job guys, I think I've just put one on my Christmas list!
KPWoCkAxX Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I think I've just put one on my Christmas list! Let's just hope you're a good boy! Then agian, I might do the same, it looks awesome, and for a first time build it could make it much easier!
Jack Rimer Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 The kit really is much more friendly to the non-modeler. It is more time consuming (screwing together track parts) than difficult (trying to manipulate free form track like on the Scorpion). Yet, the versatility of the system is still intact. The NoLimits simulator is also very cool. To those who are familiar with NoLimits it may be a yawn because it is only a single ride, but to the vast majority of the public, this just blows their mind.
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