Tmcdllr Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 ^EXACTLY!!! Well put. I'm not bashing this lift system or anything I just find it odd there are no anti rollbacks, and because of that, it has gotten me really interested in what is used instead (lift chains it appears) and how it works.
AllenA07 Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 I'm not really sure the layout of this ride as good as some, and RCDB was not much of a help, but does the lift hill follow right after the station or is there some straight track separating the station from the lift? If there is some track between the station and the life I'd imagine it'd be like an accelerator coaster and there would be brake fins for such a rollback. Can somebody shed some light on this for me?
r4blue Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Well in this pic: Â http://www.coasterdom.com/gallery/image.php?d=%2FHersheypark%2FFahrenheit%2FConstruction%2F04-05&p=04-05-02&w=800 Â You can see the 2 lift chains, and you can also see there's not much of a gap between the station and the lift, so clearly no room for a massive brake run. Intamin must have faith in their design.
FeelTheFORCE Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Here is a picture that Flyin Phil took showing how much space there is: Once again, credit goes to Flyin Phil for this picture.
AllenA07 Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 There does not seem like the train would be able to stop in case of a rollback. I've got faith in Intamin however, just because this is something that none of nus are really used to doesn't mean that it's a bad idea. That being said, it sure does seem strange that the ride wouldn't have anti-rollbacks as a precautionary measure.
Ccron10 Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 I hardly would think Intamin would not have a fail-safe system for this. I think those skids on the bottom of the wheel casings have something to do with it. there's probably skid brakes at the base of the lift on that straight section.
Thom25 Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Good observation with the skids, you could be right. I am sure Intamin has a fail safe for everything they have thought of - the question is have they considered both chains failing at the same time? It's not like anyone has ever died on one of their rides (sarcasm) Â Tom SFNE is my home park - Intamin rules !!!
skipper747 Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Even if there would be brakes on the straight horizontal section, the transition from vertical to horizontal would pull too many G's
Tmcdllr Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 I don't think that plate under the wheels is a skid for braking for 2 reasons: Â 1. If it is on only one wheel set and on the same one on each train then it must be for proximity switch tripping or something else. Â 2. Using plates attatched to the wheel assembly for braking doesn't make sense simply because braking a train in that manner would put a tremendous amount of stress on the wheels, axel, etc. and cause early failure of the components and possibly create a safety hazard. Â If there are no anti rollbacks on the lift then there would have to be magnetic braking at the base of the lift with fins attatched to the train chassis and not the wheels. I still wonder...if that is true then wouldn't it be better and possibly safer to stop and hold the train where it is on the lift with anti rollbacks than have it fall to the bottom then be braked? Of coourse it's possible that there are anti rollbacks on the lift and maybe it's just a different design than what we have seen before, now I really want to know!
BRTeller Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Well I got about a 150 pictures of Fahrenheit, lol. Well lets just start. I'm probably just going to post about 50 here of my favorites. On my forums there will be a download in the members only section for anyone that's interested. Later I will have a PTR. Â Also I have a video that will be posted in a couple of hours, that will be on my main Fahrenheit page. So just check back in a little bit for that. the page with all the information. Â Alright now lets start. When I got to Hershey this is what I first saw of Fahrenheit. Yep, twisty goodness. Yep, the trains! Pretty! Fahrenheit, through the trees! Hey look the full train. Look at all those lucky plastic people, there so fake and materialistic! Â Look at that @$$. Â Look it's in action. Up! Down! Say it with me, Twisty Goodness! Cobra Roll is in there somewhere. Still not finished with the fencing. There was a lot of pacing, and slow spots. Still looks fun as hell though. Cobra Roll action! Zero G goodness! Airtime! I still don't know why its called a Norwegian Loop, it looks pretty much like a pretzel loop. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. Twisty~! Â Sexy Roll, I mean Cobra....Wow these captions are almost as bad as the hot and cold, right side up, and wrong way, and all of that. Cobra Roll action. I also like this picture. I messed with one of the pictures and came up with this. OMG, OMG, is this what I think!!! Oh yeah, I can touch forever now! I will cherish you forever support. Yes the caption got as bad as they can ever get, officially at this time. Â Going Down. Down. Down. Down. And its....Down! Â Â Nerd Shot. Again, Nerd Shot. Inside the station. Â I leave you with this.
amusing_parks Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Nice pictures, im gussing from the clouds, you went yesterday, o well. I would of got like 5 pictures if I didn't have to leave right after work, but wow 100+, thats just awesome, if I was there and not working I would of done the same.
Kennyweird Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Those "skid brakes" are just drive tire plates. See? Drive tire plates.
amusing_parks Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Maybe, I should take a look next time I work, I didn't work down towards there today, I worked on the train but it is close, I just cant walk around or I would.
fahrenheit1315 Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 i really would like some one to explain how the station works. Do the tarcks move side to side or what?? Some one explain!!!!!!PLEASE!
haux Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Those "skid brakes" are just drive tire plates.Huh. That's interesting. Any idea why they have drive tires down there and underneath the train (as in some photos, though that may just be the transfer track)?
BRTeller Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Thanks guys, I went today also. It was a last minute thing. So I got a couple of Fahrenheit and Howler. I was only there for about an hour though.
Thom25 Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 GREAT pictures Brandon - thanks for sharing. I can not wait to ride Farenheit. Is the video up yet? Can't wait to see that too !! I went to the link saw ALL the amazing pictures, but must have missed the video.
BRTeller Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 GREAT pictures Brandon - thanks for sharing. I can not wait to ride Farenheit. Is the video up yet? Can't wait to see that too !! I went to the link saw ALL the amazing pictures, but must have missed the video. No, its not up yet. I decided to go to Hershey again today at the last minute and didn't have the time. I'm sorry, I will post when I do. Also thanks I'm glad you like them.
Thom25 Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Brandon - no need to apology, thank you for the quick response. I LOVE the pictures - I have a ton of friends in PA, while I am there all the time - (every couple of weeks or so) - I am living vicariously through your pictures and videos and loving every minute of it. SFNE is my home park, and RoS is obviously my fav steel - I LOVE Inatamin rides - period - regardless of the mechanical crap - I think all of their coasters rock - or at the very least, deliver what I personally look for in a coaster. Â Thanks again for the pics - let us know when the video is up (please)
Tmcdllr Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Those "skid brakes" are just drive tire plates. Â That's an odd way to use drive tires to move a train...is that the straight section leading to the lift?
Kennyweird Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 ^Yup, that's the straight section where the chain engages the train. I'm guessing that because the chain's in the way they had to put the drive tires somewhere else. However, with the exception of the bottom of the lift hill, the rest of the ride apparently uses the normal drive tire configuration.
KFConcepts Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Ok... I'm back; I’ve figured it out … my last thoughts about it (promise).  This ride has nothing to do with Maverick in comparison ... I'll even take back part of my Storm Runner comparison.  I knew there was something about this ride that just seemed off with me. Again, I'm glad to see most new rides, but something wouldn't stay quiet in my thoughts about this one. It just doesn't fit in my opinion.  This ride is old hat w/ a different lift hill.  I apologize if someone else mentioned this, but it's a modified Intamin 10 inversion coaster ... it is the "10 Inversion Roller Coaster" in Chimelong Paradise (i.e. colors). See pic.   The mid-sections are exactly the same.   Also, I believe someone said "zero-g" or something with those corkscrews. I believe they are regular corkscrews, not a Maverick horseshoe type roll (enthusiast and general public favorites). Probably no zero-g feelings with those corkscrews, but that's yet to be determined. It's a re-packaged old-school roller coaster. Yes, old school can be fun. It’s still an overall interesting choice.  10 Inversion Roller Coaster http://rcdb.com/ig3475.htm?picture=4  See also: Colossus (Thorpe Park) http://rcdb.com/ig1412.htm Â
Ccron10 Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Wow, I never thought of it that way. 10 Inversion and Fahrenheit look the same.... The same color, and the same inversions used. It's like looking at a different type of Fahrenheit. Maybe those rumors about an 11 inversion coaster were true in a way. Â I can't believe that nobody found this out in the 9 months we've been discussing the ride.
fahrenheit1315 Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 so can anyone explain how the station works? Brandon what did it look like the station did, did it slide side t side or stay still???
haux Posted May 5, 2008 Posted May 5, 2008 Ok... I'm back; I’ve figured it out … my last thoughts about it (promise).I think that's a bit of a stretch. Colossus at Thorpe Park has the same layout but a different color scheme. The colors don't matter at all. Cobra roll and two corkscrews. That's really the only similarities between the rides. I don't see the comparison.
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