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I agree, Jahan. Pixar films have staying power with Disney parks now, and I don't see them getting old and outdated. Not with the way that Disney makes spinoff shows based on the movies, or even sequels. With everyone copying Pixar animation now just like everyone copied Disney cartoons of yesteryear, it just seems like a lot of the same old stuff being shoved down our throats every year. If Pixar ever did a movie about dancing penguins, I'd go see it, unlike Happy Feet.

 

Sure, some Disney rides can hold their own, and end up getting movies, etc made after the attraction is made, like Haunted Mansion, Pirates, and to a lesser extent Dinosaur and Sleeping Beauty castle. It's the charm of Disney with its cute characters (and their commercial products) that keeps people interested (and reminiscing), and therefore will keep Pixar rides around much longer than something like Universe of Energy or Soarin', which isn't even worthy of a poem when it leaves.

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^^ You dont have to be an animatronic in human form to be a character! One of the most memorable of all Disney theme park characters is the goat that chews the stick of dynamight on Big Thunder! You ask anybody about Big Thunder and I guarentee they will bring up the goat!

 

The memorable voice who belts out the safety speil is also a character. A lot of us can recognize "the wildest ride in the wiiiiillldernessss."

 

And you must either have a freaking short attention span or you were riding the much quicker Disneyland version, to say that Brer Rabbit & Friends are not memorable!

 

Space is an exception and not a rule, but there's no need to hijack this thread even further and explain that attraction to you all. I've said too much alread, as it is.

 

 

-Jahan

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^It's also kinda hard to have any real sense of a character to get to know and love while you're traveling 30mph or more thru twists, turns, tunnels, and general darkness, Jahan. Don't forget that Unless of course it's like the world's largest and most expensive Animatronic and it's the only thing you can possibly look at for the 5 seconds you're able to.

 

And while few American's have ever seen Song of the South, the Splash characters are totally memorable just for the time you see them in the ride. If you don't, you may be needing to see your doctor for something to help treat your ADD.

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Well, I think we've covered the whole Pixar thing by now, but I'll just add one quick thing. Pixar is indeed GREAT. I absolutely love most of their work, and as someone said, they actually bring more to a Disney animated feature than Disney can anymore *cough* Lion King 14, *cough* Jungle Book 9 - Bagheera Strikes Back....straight to DVD.

 

Regarding the original intention of the thread, it's Pixar-related rides/attractions that are simply misplaced. Purists are simply tired of seeing some old classics get madeover with an uninspired infusion of Pixar characters. The Toy Stories, Monsters Inc., etc. were brilliant movies; not only for the kids, but for adults as well. I'm certainly not opposed to seeing Pixar rides at some point in the parks, but where they're ending up just doesn't make enough sense to me.

 

Here's my solution...as far as WDW goes. Mickey's Toontown Fair = garbage. Close it, and make it the new "PixarLand," if you will. Mickey can still reside there with some of his close classic character friends, but if you're gonna call it "Toontown," then why not include the new wave of toons? Oh, and since they already destroyed a classic by closing and filling in 20K, then use that parcel of land too.

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Here's my solution...as far as WDW goes. Mickey's Toontown Fair = garbage. Close it, and make it the new "PixarLand," if you will. Mickey can still reside there with some of his close classic character friends, but if you're gonna call it "Toontown," then why not include the new wave of toons? Oh, and since they already destroyed a classic by closing and filling in 20K, then use that parcel of land too.

 

I agree with the idea of using the Toontown plot for something better. As for the 20K parcel of land, I have heard of better things to come to that land, and I am not talking about anything along the lines of Bald Mountain or Fire Mountain (or the Matterhorn for some of those people that believe that WDW will get one). I enjoyed Raging Spirits too much to give up a new credit at WDW for a Pixar attraction...

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The problem I see with making a "Pixarland" in place of Toontown is that each Pixar film is so different. It's not like Fantasyland where every movie occured back in the old country centuries ago. Walking from a Monster's Inc to a Cars kinda seems out of place and not very Disney themed. Plus look at how many of those D tickets it would take (and how much room is actually there) to handle them. Even Toontown at Disneyland has only 2 rides, and 1 wasn't even done as fully as it was supposed to (at least according to my Imagineer friends).

 

While I don't think attractions like the Comedy Club fit in Tomorrowland (something more like the Studios would work), I don't really see stuff like Dreamflight or Timekeeper doing that well there either. There's a reason why it was only opened seasonally, and that's because it never had the attendance figures. I think Buzz fits in nicely in Tomorrowland. Even Stitch (as much as I hate it) seems to work there being all space-like and stuff. And tough to be a Bug fits well in the tree of life; moreso than it would in a Pixarland.

 

I could think of some other things to occupy the Comedy Club's spot, like Flying Saucers, but Disney tries to keep a few things in mind always with their attractions; that the majority of the family can ride together, and that the lines can move people thru. Plus, if Disney tries to go too "futuristic" and thrilling, they get Mission: Space and are deamed as killers. The Comedy Club may not last that long, but at least Disney is trying to be innovative, instead of just plopping down another 3-D movie or omnimover and calling it a day.

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The Pixarization of Tomorrowland continues! Seriously, what is next for Tomorrowland? Is the Speedway going to get a face lift to include things from the movie Cars? Then what's left from that? Space Mountain, which is rumoured to be going under a major revamp soon, the TTA, and the Carousel of Progress, which which rumoured to be removed for a future attraction. For being one of the best lands in any Disney theme park, Tomorrowland at the Magic Kingdom is starting to lack in the good things.

 

Buzz needs a refurbishment, make those guns able to be removed from the cars! Stitch and/or Monsters should be trashed and Adventure Thru Inner - Space should be brought back. (Yes, I know ATIS was in DLR)

 

Anyway, I'm nearly 100% sure you have the first video of the queue/show's insides on the internet, nice work! The only thing that confuses me, is why was this put into Tomorrowland? Wouldn't this have worked better in MGM somewhere?

 

~Bret "bring back the golden rides" Taggart

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^For the Indy Speedway, I have been predicting that change for a while, but it looks like we might only be getting electric versions of the cars we already have. The Carousel of Progress isn't going anywhere just yet.

 

Supposidly someone already got a video of the entire show uploaded to the internet, so I'm not sure if I was the first. I think this would have worked better in MGM, but I don't think that the concept really fits any of our parks here in Florida.

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I still don't get the whole "gotta be the first" mentality when it comes to these videos and such. I'd rather put my name on something that is steady, organized, focused, and timed properly making it quality and something I can be proud of than to just be the first one done. In the future maybe you can actually see and enjoy the show first, and then go back later and try filming it.

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^I don't do this to be the first. I was filming because I like to film most of the things I experience when I go to the parks so that I may look back on them and remember the experience. If this was a preview that was ongoing during the day I would have taken more time and focused a little more carefully, but as this was the last preview of the day, I was determined to get as much into the video as possible. I will remember this preview much better and because of the video, I will be better able to compare the preview version to the final version (whenever that shows up, as I expect plenty more tweaks to follow after the official opening of the show).

 

The scary thing is that Disney is still tweaking Stitch's Great Escape. I rode it two weeks ago and Stitch only burped once. This past Friday, he burped twice, making the horrid chili dog smell last even longer...

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Thanks for the TR! However, personally, I think Disney can do MUCH better theming than that. Here's my Ideal theming:

 

Theme the building, on the outside as the factory.

 

When you walk in, theme everything like the factory in the movie.

 

When you get to the second to last room, have there be a door, that's where all of the "portals" to the other kid's rooms are.

 

When you're finally let in, theme the theater room as a kid's bedroom, and have the person perform the act.

 

Personally, Disney can do a better job than that. Then again, I don't now if this is like a one time event, so they won't do that type of heavy theming.

 

-Mike

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^^ Not to quibble about minor things, but is it not you in the video who says,"I'm gonna get a lot of hits from being the first video inside of here."?

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^Truly yes I said that, as my friends (who you hear in the video) had asked me if I was going to post this on my site, and that is when you heard me say that. I posted it on TPR because I enjoy doing so, and there was no other motive for me.

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...I would still gladly see a return of Food Rocks to Epcot.

 

Food Rocks??? Are you kidding me? Kitchen Kabaret was the class of Disney education and entertainment for a boring subject. The songs were catchy and original, as were the characters. Food Rocks was an uninspired rehash, with stupid voice overs of "past their prime" pop stars.

 

I agree that the age of classic attractions like Pirates is over, but I think that Soarin' is a great example of what can be done with some true imagination.

 

Soarin' is true imagination? Again, seriously, it's an omniscreen with slightly moving chairs. Please, it's hardly imaginative. Nor does it belong in the Land.

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^I grew up with Food Rocks (but did see Kitchen Kabaret at a very young age), so I am partial to that show rather that Kitchen Kabaret. Though, I would choose either over the Circle of Life film shown in the Symbiosis Theater at the Land.

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Why don't they just rename it Crapland at this point? Certainly more fitting than Tommorowland. What's futuristic about it anyway? Even Space Mountain is stuck in the 70's!

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