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  1. No! If there is no legal protection for the coaster and the owner does not want it anymore, not much can be done. It belongs to him.
  2. Destruction of the park and Blue Sreak will likely take place very shortly. From screamscape.com (9/4/21) A couple of new interesting developments came to light yesterday regarding the potential demise of Conneaut Lake Park. Sensing, or perhaps knowing a bit more than they can say, ACE stepped onto the field and issued a press release of their own entitled “”IMMINENT DESTRUCTION OF CONNEAUT LAKE’S BLUE STREAK ROLLER COASTER FEARED”. I’m going to embed that below for everyone to read, but the breakdown is that ACE is “deeply concerned” about the future fate of the 83-year-old Blue Streak coaster. They remind everyone that Blue Streak is on the short list of only 45 coasters in the world given “ACE Roller Coaster Landmark” status, one of only 30 granded “ACE Coaster Classic” status. It also mentions that ACE itself has previously donated $30,000 to the restoration of the Blue Streak, and helped obtain a $50,000 grant from PEPSI in the not too distant past to help keep the Blue Streak alive. While imploring to the current management of Conneaut Lake Park to find a way to keep the Blue Streak involved in whatever future business model proves viable for the property, ACE also encourages the PHMC to ‘hold the park’s ownership accountable for complying with any and all covenants and restrictions to which it is legally obligated”. That last part, which Screamscape has mentioned in the past, now apparently has hit a major snag and may actually no longer be true. According to Tweets sent out from @OnlineHyde who is worth listening to,, the bankruptcy court rulings from the sale of Conneaut Lake Park to the current owner appear to have wiped the slate clean. I’ve also embedded his tweet showing a court document that appears to make it clear that the successful bidder on the property from the bankruptcy auction will be “free and clear of any and all” liens, encumbrances, claims, mortgages, deeds of trust, pledges, liabilities as well as “covenants”, restrictions, etc… So based on this new fact, it does indeed appear that the new owner of the park would be free and clear of the previous 2013 Covenant that tied development of the property and changes to existing structuctures and such to the Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission (PHMC) as part of the terms of purchasing the park through the bankruptcy auction. While our modern litigious society notions would give the impression that this would be a matter that would probably need to go before the court to get a final judgment, somehow I don’t think ACE or the PHMC are going to try and back up their case with expensive legal fees required to take this to the next level. So barring the arrival of some kind of financial angel investor to buy up the park, the fate of Conneaut Lake Park and the Blue Streak does seem to entirely rest with the park’s current owner. Stay tuned...
  3. Well I totally agree with you! I think the park was doing ok before the pandemic but 2020 kind of killed it. Then being sold to Todd Joseph, it was pretty clear and easy to see that he purchased it for the land to be developed in a not so distant future. It is just sad because CLP is or was such a unique place! Yes it looked delapidated but it was part of the experience. And what other park has houses into the park with people living in them!! The Blue Streak is a very fun coaster and yes the fact that it seems as it may fall apart adds to the experience! Honestly, I dont really see CLP or the Blue Streak survive, unless the state of PA and ACE really step in with legal rights regarding the historical issues, or if the owner ends up selling the park to somebody else like Gene Staples who has saved a few so far. Also, there could be someone out there fond enough of the coaster to save it and relocate it, like Knoebel's!! But the clock is thicking. I think after Labor Day week end the park will close for good, never to reopen. The Blue Streak will be demolished and the rest will be history.
  4. https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Famp%2Fs%2Fwww.yourerie.com%2Fnews%2Flocal-news%2Famerican-coaster-enthusiasts-phmc-concerned-over-future-of-blue-streak-roller-coaster-at-conneaut-lake-park%2Famp%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR02XfSxFsSJO7nTvNJbNpta09VEp5IrShjJGSAbrefGYyC7jyp1VtCeLaI&h=AT0hqdzg-s0aLiKT2TXDYAXLkgRi9Z1nfT4EUodPAtLJK-ajqxNFgAc9oa2gPh0ab26iMdsigUpuU8277KYdIsWfGZk-5LLrgK0IY7O7ztwOXz_W-jhLs1GV_L3O6EpszVUT&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT2EhXT6MY-svgtxuWyxsPby3CTFW_q2QuvFIO5ggXIACmzaPK-K-sWPc5P_i7-0DxuVlU3falymyImAMZpyHDeGA-3nPFRbCWct3Pf2rhf4RNIhqCyvtlzWzoSvf5dA8QkwN_yZZWKuIfcdQigAnaqhT8oORaRimCfPI3gSYMown9EqpXrrwMe2FOSJcx6axsaGFLv4-QR- Rallye tomorrow at noon!
  5. Park owner is not responding to anyone! But while he wants to tear everything down, will the state of PA step in in time with the park's historical status before it's too late!? So far it's not too late. The park has a long history of closing and reopening when everyone thought it was doomed.
  6. https://www.yourerie.com/news/local-news/new-park-owner-fails-to-provide-update-about-the-future-of-conneaut-lake-park/
  7. Apparently the owner is removing the train tracks to possibly make room to demolish the Blus Streak.
  8. Coaster is SUCH a wonderful wooden coaster! Not the biggest but soooo smooth and the airtime is great! I love the flanged wheels, I don't understand why they don't make them anymore? They seem to track better.
  9. https://www.erienewsnow.com/clip/15246372/park-lovers-concerned-as-conneaut-lake-park-rides-appear-for-sale-online
  10. Very possible! At least I did get to go on it several times. Awesome coaster! Cyclone at William's Grove I missed it by one year.
  11. Yes if someone could save the Blue Streak that would be great. But it seems like not so many people really care about the park anymore.
  12. Well apparently the owner is in sort of some trouble for tearing down the Tumble Bug ride and some historic buildings as they were protected by a Covenant. According to Screamscape; (Some interesting news has come up that could affect the future plans for Conneaut Lake Park. According to a post on Facebook way back in 2013 a Covenant was placed on the park by the Pennsylvania Historical & Museum Commission and the Board of Trustees to “protest and preserve the park’s historic attractions and buildings”. Included in the list of protected structures are the Blue Streak coaster, the Hotel Conneaut, the Carousel and many other park structures. The Covenant was signed for a period of 15 years, so it remains in effect through to 2028, and remains in effect and passed down to new owners, including the current one). So it seems this may prevent the Blue Streak from being demolished, which is good news because it seems the owner was going this way. Even if the park closes, with the coaster still up, it could entice a new owner in the future.
  13. Well Flying Scooters is up for sale on usedrides.com! It was lately refurbished. So if anybody wanna visit the park, do so this month before it closes for good
  14. Some source is saying that the owner is indeed getting rid of the park in a very near future.
  15. It looks like it is the end! It's actually surprising the owner still keeps it open! Probably a matter of weeks. While it's very sad to see it go, CLP went on for so many extra years. The park was doomed many times but somehow always survived. This is why we should never take any park or coaster for granted. You just never know when it will be the end so you have to go to the parks while thay are open. I'm glad I went there a couple times. I really enjoyed the Blue Streak.
  16. Thank you very much for uptate! It sounds like the end is near. This season is probably the last.....unless someone, some organization steps in and saves the park, or at least the Blue Streak. It's not too late yet. The park is still open and the Blue Streak is still standing.
  17. Well we pretty much all saw it coming. The owner is a real estate developer from the area and had not been to the park in like 25 years. He bought that place for the land so he could develop it, build condos. I really hope it stays as an amusement park but I am being realistic. I'm glad I went in 2017 and got several rides on Blue Streak. What a fantastic coaster! The feel of the coaster and the park is like no other!
  18. Plenty of survey markings have been seen around White Water Canyon ride. It seems it could be for a large new roller coaster!
  19. I wonder what new coaster the park will get!? There is a good chance it will be the shuttle coaster from Mexico.
  20. It will probably need quite a bit of testing once it is all assembled. The coaster needs some tlc and I would imagine after what happened in Mexico, testing might take some time.
  21. Le Monstre is smoother sitting in the back. You can totally feel the difference in smoothness where it has been retracked. The first drop has topper track and is very smooth! I think topper track all over on both sides would make it perfectly smooth. I still like walking to the station in the queue and being surrounded by the massive structure (especially track1) or when riding it and seeing timber everywhere. Night rides in the dark on this coaster are the best! I've always enjoyed Bill Cobb designed coasters! They look different and are beautiful IMO and have different and weird elements!
  22. Just went to La Ronde yesterday for the first time in 2 years and have to admit it was a great experience! With spots reserved online ahead of time we got there at 10am and the park was pretty empty! We got to go on so many rides many times and even if more people came in later in the afternoon it was still not really crowded, just very enjoyable. Throughout the day most rides including coasters you could just get on and not wait at all! Rarely seen that there! Le Monstre was open (both tracks!!!) even though it said it was closed on the website and at the entrance. So it was a bonus! We tried both tracks. A lot of new track work was performed since the pandemic and it ran pretty smooth, especially in the back. The chain lift is fast compared to before and the PTC trains start faster on top so it seems to help them navigate through the course. IMO it doesn't need an RMC treatment! RMC could come just in and build a coaster from scratch!
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