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^Makes you wonder how accurate the TEA attendance report is every year. Their 2017 report lists Knott's at a hair over 4 million. If Hangtime brought in an additional 2 million people that is one hell of an investment. http://www.teaconnect.org/images/files/TEA_268_653730_180517.pdf

I love the view of the park you get right before the drop. Only missing Behemoth from the skyline.

Does anyone know why Shockwave gets left in this position for the winter? I would have just assumed it would be left in the loading position during the off season.

^I get that. Even with the Voyage’s aggressive second half, everytime the train would pull into the station I’d want to ride again. Raven was the only coaster I had no desire to re-ride.

Why wouldn't the bat stay? They just painted the entire thing and gave it a brand new name and logo a few seasons ago. There's no indication whatsoever that the Bat is going anywhere. That Bat is awesome, and (contrary to your experience), I've never seen the thing without a line. You’re right, there has been no indication that it is going anywhere. I was just joining the speculation of the future of the Bat and Vortex. I really do hope it stays, as it’s a great ride and one of the best suspended coasters left. Also glad to hear it’s still popular with the GP. If it’s still getting a line way down there it must be a favourite with a lot of the public.

Nice TR, I just went for the first time last weekend and your reviews sound pretty much bang on compared to mine. The Raven: How does this ride get so much love? This thing was way too rough to enjoy. The Legend: The only review I'll disagree with. It was rough but tolerable and I really enjoyed the twisty layout. The Voyage: Stellar roller coaster up until the MCBR, then uncomfortable from there. Can't imagine how painful the ending would be if it were to just fly through the MCBR. Thunderbird: Great ride, nice to ride something actually smooth in the park. I had some bad luck while I was at the park; at one point The Voyage, Raven, and Thunderbird were all down at the same time and Legend was only using one train so of course everyone flooded that ride. The Voyage only opened up with an hour before close and with only 1 train so waits were painful but those night rides were fantastic.

If The Bat is going to stay, their next coaster should go right beside it with the entrance as close to The Bat's entrance as possible to increase its ridership. Even with Banshee close by, when I was there last weekend I rode it on two separate occasions and never saw a train more than half full. I think most of the public likes The Bat, but don't like the long hike back there to ride it.

Wasn't me but the person a row ahead of me. I was in line for the last row on The Racer at KI at night when a man (probably around 50) got in line for the row in front of me. He wasn't looking too well, almost looked drunk as he grabbed the gates in the station. Anyway, we get on, and during the last drop before the turnaround I felt something wet hit my face, like a raindrop. The sky was clear so I had a pretty bad feeling I knew what it was, and sure enough as we pulled into the station he had thrown up all over himself. I felt really bad for him as when we came back into the station as a bunch of 13-14 year olds started yelling and pointing at him, making a scene. He grabbed his stuff quickly and got out of the station; the dispatching ride op actually had to lean over the booth and tell him to find first aid to wash his clothes while he was walking down the exit ramp as he didn't want to stick around and talk to any ride-ops. I'm just glad I didn't get hit with more than I did behind him, and I hope he was feeling better for the rest of the night.

Mystic Timbers. The night rides on that thing are just as good as The Beast’s in my opinion.

Sheesh thunder run gets worked on every year I just rode it last weekend and was expecting it to be a lot rougher than it was. The only part that I think needs a lot of work is the last turn before the station. T3 was down all day so I guess that roughness makes up for missing the hang’n’bang.

Flight Deck, Behemoth, Stunt Coaster, The Fly, Leviathan, and maybe Guardian and Skyhawk. They take your picture to show your scores on those rides though I'm not sure if you can buy them. Flight Deck got rid of on-ride photos a couple of years ago. Backlot Stunt Coaster had finally gotten rid of the on-ride photos last year and the on-ride photo building was removed during the 2015/2016 off-season. Behemoth, Ghoster Coaster, Leviathan, The Fly, and Taxi Jam have on-ride photos available for purchase. Wonder Mountain's Guardian and Skyhawk do have on-ride photos, although they are not available for purchase as they're only momentarily featured on a TV at the exit. Thanks for correcting me, shows how much I pay attention to those photos.

Flight Deck, Behemoth, Stunt Coaster, The Fly, Leviathan, and maybe Guardian and Skyhawk. They take your picture to show your scores on those rides though I'm not sure if you can buy them.

I agree, I'm loving everything about this coaster.

A B&M Stand-Up.

Cedar Fair should have sent Thunder Road to Valleyfair.

^Well I am actually excited for CW's new flat rides. I'm not sure what about Skyhawk makes you think "meh," because being able to do multiple inversions in the air at 135 feet sounds sick to me. CW will get their new coaster soon enough. Both Raptor and Valravn are going to look great beside each other, and both will be amazing rides too.

That's pretty awful. That makes that crew the worst out of the four newer RMC's. 20 cycles is a low hour at Goliath and Medusa, and I assume TC as well. What are they possibly doing that they're moving so much slower than their counterparts? Are you sure you heard 20? And not 25 or 30? It was definitely 20. I would get off, walk down the exit ramp, back to the entrance, down the flash pass line, walk up the stairs to the station (which is all a long hike) and the train I got off would still be waiting to dispatch. There were a lot of people coming up the exit with some ticket to ride and they would get on the platform but their seat would be filled by the op controlling the line and then they would be bothering the ops wondering what to do and everyone would be confused.

I was at the park on Saturday for the first time and had a great time. The park has some great rides and has a beautiful setting; the views on Bizzaro''s lift and especially on Sky Screamer are amazing! My only minor problem was with the Q-bot. As soon as I got it I reserved Goliath, and before I rode I reserved Wicked Cyclone. After Goliath, I was on my way to Wicked Cyclone and almost at the entrance when it vibrated and said "Not Rented, Please Return." So I walked back to the Flash Pass center and they fixed it. I really wanted to ride Wicked Cyclone so I reserved it and started walking back again and when I was at the stairs in front of Sky Screamer it vibrated again and said "Not Rented, Please Return." So I turned around and walked all the way back again and this time they gave me a new one which worked the rest of the day. It was frustrating as I spent a half-hour walking back and forth from WC to the front gate but the new one worked fine the rest of the day. As far as ride ops, they were ok. Not terrible, but not great either. While at Wicked Cyclone, the op on the mic announced that this was their 20th cycle in an hour and was sincerely congratulating the rest of the ops. IMO, 3 minute dispatches isn't that impressive. Though to be fair, there were a lot of people coming up the exit with ride passes that forced the ops to leave certain rows empty when letting people in from the line. This was happening a lot which I found odd. Why are people going up the exit and not the flash pass line if they have a line pass? Anyway, onto the rides: Wicked Cyclone (x8): This lived up to the hype. It was my first RMC and there were times it literally felt like the ride was trying to eject me from the seat. What I love about this ride is how it keeps a high speed the entire time. The speed it takes some of the elements on the ride is just insane. It's the best ride in the park IMO. Bizzaro (x6): This also lived up to the hype as well. The long, sustained ejector air over the main airtime hills really separate it from Wicked Cyclone. My only issue was the trains/restraints. I'm 6'2, which isn't abnormally tall, but the lap bar sat only half way down my thighs and not near my waist which felt a little awkward. I definitely understand why there is a max. height requirement too. On my last run I was slouching a bit in the seat and the ride op stapled me in and my restraint actually went into my gut, though my knees were now pushed right out into the box in front of the seat. That entire ride my knees were slamming into that box so bad, I actually had to put my hands over my knees to absorb the impact. New trains or better restraints would also really help make this ride more comfortable, though it's not that bad as it is. (Bizzaro was also down a lot. I was stuck on the break run for 15 minutes with a train stuck only 50 feet up the lift. I saw this happen another time, and my Q-bot kept going off saying it was closed multiple times.) Batman (x5): I think this ride is under-rated. It was a really fun, smooth ride with great inversions. Goliath (x2): My first ride was in the front and was amazing! I loved it. At night I decided to ride again, though the flash pass attendant put me in the last line since there were only 3 in line there. I was nervous because I had read on here that the front is the only good row. Well, that information is 100% true. I felt like I was riding a paint shaker. It blows my mind how there can be such a ride difference between the front and the back. It's too bad because without the shaking it would be such a great ride. Flashback (x1): Wasn't as good as my first ride on Goliath, but way better than my second. Pandemonium (x1): Fun family ride. I rode with 2 kids and their dad and the kids' reactions were hilarious. Thunderbolt (x1): Another fun family ride. Mind Eraser (x1): A Maverick or Ispeed style coaster would be a much better use of space, and that's all I'm gonna say about that. Scream (x2): I love drop/launch towers, this one didn't disappoint. Sky Screamer (x1): Great views, the high winds were causing the swings to sway a lot too which was fun. Overall I had a great time. SFNE has a real winner on their hands with Wicked Cyclone, and although I doubt it, it would be nice if they gave Bizzaro new trains with this re-theme. And now for 2 crappy vertical Iphone pics. What a beautiful pole. 2 trains, 1 photo. That's as artsy as I get.

It blows my mind how people will wait over an hour for these rides though. At least there is hope that Minebuster will get re-tracked like Wild Beast, but the other 2 are lost causes. And a quick note about Marineland, it's a park with major potential. It has tons of room to expand, it's in a major tourist area and its close to the 5+ million people in the Toronto area. If it got in the right hands it could be an amazing park but unfortunately I don't think the current owners have plans to (or can afford to) turn it into the amazing park it could be.

I'd be surprised if Wonderland got a hotel. I feel like they wrote that idea off when they sold off that massive plot of land north of the park. That would've been the perfect spot for one. Plus Wonderland isn't a destination/resort kind of park, and it doesn't need to be. The park has an enormous market within 2 hours driving time.

^I never said there were more, I said there were some, referring to the old ones. The post is one page back. Sorry for the confusion. I'm glad to hear that the park is busy, after the attendance slip last year hopefully this year will see an increase again.

There are orange markers. They are only visible from the blocked off path unless they've been removed since it was blocked off. I never said they were new, I'm just trying to help people keep up with what's going on. Also, the dollar was almost as crappy in 2006-2007 when Behemoth was being planned. It was around $.85 compared to $.80 today, and cedar fair had just taken on the debt load of 6 parks. None of us are economists so I think it's difficult to make accurate predictions on what Cedar Fair is planning to do based on the economy.

Photo credits to my friend on fb. Looks like they've blocked off the path from White Water Canyon to Splashworks. There are some orange markers in the trees behind. Anyone at the park soon to check this out?

Hopefully once Splashworks opens we will get a better view of the construction area.