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It seems they refuse to run a ride with under a certain number of employees even if they physically can, unlike SF. For example, Jokers Jinx at SFA is supposed to have a crew of 6, 1 load/flashpass, 1 load, 1 op, 2 unload and 1 security officer. However they are fully willing to run it with a crew of 3, being op, load/flashpass and unload. I don't remember Kings Island running any of their major coasters with three people.

I've seen a few of those "Karens" at Knoebels as well, so annoying. I do get it though, heavy snapping does look like something is going wrong. I've never found the speed to matter much, you can easily snap Knoebels flyers even when they are running at their low speed, which is slower than any other model.

^Same experience at SFA. I'm wondering if there is a difference between Larson models, as you can see the support structure was changed at some point between Air Crow and Valleyfair's. Note how Air Crows is more similar to a Bisch-Rocco.

Did you get lucky or already know this, cause this is spot on. 500 "without issue", whatever that means. It's 2000 in Iowa!

Sounds like what people think SFA is like daily(it's not) I can't believe your friend got assaulted for no reason, that's just insane. Do you have any more details about how that happened?

Air Crow literally has a sign saying not to lol so not sure if it should go on the list.

I wish Knoebels would do this instead of slowing the ride for everyone. And thanks for the info guys!

Thanks for the extra info guys! I only listed original Bisch-Rocco permanent models as the larson ones, like Yoshi mentioned, almost never allow snapping, and the portable models like Eagles Flight are so difficult I don't see it often done. I'll update the original post.

Eiffel Tower tower is closed if you consider that a ride. Rides are being operated normally. Crowds at parks this year have been so different for obvious reason so I don't think it's worth making a guess on that, but crowds have never been much of an issue for me at KD except on Saturdays.

Hey guys, I'm sure there's at least two people on here that care about this topic. Basically, on Flying Scooter rides, you can "snap" the cables, allowing for a more extreme ride. Some parks allow this, some don't, and I definitely don't want to intentionally break park rules. I've made a list of all flyers where it is possible and the park policies on it. Bisch-Rocco permanent models Flyer, Knoebels: Very operator dependent, some won't allow it at all while some will nearly let you tear the ride apart(plz dont). This is the fastest flyer in the world and the only one run on gas!! Rowdy Roosters, Canobie Lake Park: While this is a snapable model, chains limit the movement of the sails, making it very difficult/impossible. Hurricane, Lakeside Amusement Park: Unknown Flying Aces, Lagoon Amusement Park: Conflicting information so probably operator dependant. Flying Eagles, Kings Dominion: Operator dependent, but in general the strictest of all of them. They say "CONTROL YOUR BIRDS" ha. Pretty sure this runs with the original motor, making it one of the fastest still in operation. American Flyers, Lake Compounce: Officially not allowed, but operator dependent. Mountain Gliders, Carowinds: Allowed and Encouraged. However, the cycle time is very short, the speed is low and the movement of the sails very limited. Premier Model - Flying Aces, Idlewild Park: "Snapping is not permitted as it damages the ride" Thunderbirds, Eldridge Park: Operator dependent, in general much more allowed than Knoebels, especially if there is no one on the ride with you. Bisch-Rocco portable models(difficult to snap, but not impossible) Section will be updated in Summer of 2023. Incomplete as is Eagles Flight, Holiday World: Allowed Seabreeze Flyers, Seabreeze: Apparently impossible but I will try myself in 2022. Rubber stops were installed to prevent snapping but these have proved ineffective on other flyers such as Mountain Gliders. Larson Models(significantly harder to snap, if not listed it's likely allowed but very difficult, most are run at low speed) Frontier Flyers, Hersheypark(high speed): Not allowed Mission Mascaw, Columbus Zoo(high speed): unknown Screaming Eagle, Fun Spot Kissimmee(high speed): Allowed, watch TPR do it! Most Six Flags parks: Allowed, however turning the car 180 degrees is not allowed. Cedar Point: Not Allowed Air Crow, Indiana Beach: Officially not allowed but operator dependent. Easier than most models due to location on the lake. Dorney Park, Cedar Creek Flyers: Allowed Flying Scooters, Camden Park: Allowed Woodstock Gliders, Worlds of Fun: Allowed Flying Eagles, Valleyfair: Allowed. Feel free to correct me or share your experiences, especially on the "unknown" ones.

Man I was so ready to book a trip next week only to see they open daily the week after...

Do the ops here have a problem with snapping on the flyers? The KD ones sure did ha.

It was up in the very morning, went down and came back up at around 5. Got stuck on the lift about 1/4 of the way up as others have been describing. Also did it's lift get slower or am I going crazy? Also idk who told me that snapping the flyers here was okay, it's definitely not some of the employees will stop you with even a little cable movement. Grizzly slow. Hope it gets faster as the summer continues. I know I sound like the stereotypical enthusiast here but what's the excuse for not running two trains on memorial day weekend? The only rides with two were Intimidator(probably the ride that needs two the least), FOF which was loading every other row, and Dominator. Even Anaconda got an hour+ wait today due to it having a single train, which I have never seen in years of coming here. Fun day though!

Thanks for the update guys! Hopefully Grizzly will run well in the rain, It's one of my favorites and I've never heard of it running slow, would be a major bummer if it is. Also thanks for the Racer heads up I probably would have skipped it otherwise.

^Was about to say the exact thing, I think a Hershey/Knoebels or even just Knoebels trip would be great for this group as well.

By trimmed do you mean it was running slowly? b/c IIRC neither ride has trims. Now that you mention it Racer has been inconsistent over the years but I've never seen Grizzly crawling, maybe I'm just lucky. Hurler seriously crawled through it's layout post-2010. Anyone catch if Intimidator was open today? Tried calling and emailing the park with no luck.

^What do you mean by "neutered shells?" I've been going here a while and they have always felt mostly the same to me, I remember thinking Grizzly was running better than ever in 2017.

Volcano Flyers at Knoebels - First ride of its type and the only one to have a gasoline engine Claw at CW - Only ride of it's type Wild One - More modifications than any roller coaster in history Olympia Looping - World's largest transportable coaster Bobsled at Seabreeze - First wood to steel track conversion(I think) Shoot the Rapids - World's crappiest log flume

Well that doesn't exactly inspire a lot of hope ha. What?

Awesome TR! It really does seem like SFA is doing incredibly well this season. You should post the BGW one! Even great parks have a bad day sometimes and it would be interesting to hear what happened, even if it is negative.

Damn no more combined speed of 70mph.

Yeah HQ has been going up and down consistently nearly every day, they sometimes just park a maintenance truck next to it so they don't have to keep driving back ha. But it It is really surprising how crowded the park is this year, it was a great decision by them to open early. ^Wild One went down two or three times, probably for about two hours total, but was open most of the day. Must have had some bad luck with timing.

Not sure if I'm adding anything new here but I just read about this and it's ridiculous! If this happened at a Six Flags park I would be angry, the fact that it's happening at CP is just absurd. When was the last time Cedar Fair fucked their customer base like this? I can't think of anything. Just horrible, I really feel for you guys who planned trips it's not fair at all.

Superman is up. Should have two trains tomorrow as well unless there is an issue with one.

Yeah I wonder what prevented parks from being able to hire certain overseas workers this year? I hate to pile on the negativity against this post but come on dude.