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In California's Great America, there's 3 mistakes 1. Survivor The Ride is renamed Tiki Twirl, though it would be nice if it was put Tiki Twirl (Survivor The Ride) 2. There's Greezed Lightnin' (Tidal Wave) and a seperate ride named Tidal Wave and there's only 1 Greezed Lightnin' (Tidal Wave). The Tidal Wave ride should be deleted for being a duplicate and the pictures in the Tidal Wave section should be put in Greezed Lightnin' (Tidal Wave) 3. Flight Deck should be renamed Flight Deck (Top Gun) since everyone calls it Top Gun.

CALIFORNIA'S GREAT AMERICA -ADD A NEW COASTER! -Put new Vekoma trains on Demon -Put new floorless trains on Vortex -Add a flat ride or coaster on the Invertigo site -Expand Boomerang Bay to the North -ADD ANOTHER COASTER!

Orbit @ CGA, I'm never going on that or any Schwarzkopf Enterprises.

I see some weird stuff happening north of Ripsnort Ridge/Screamin' Wombat in the plot of land where there's nothing until Top Gun. In that plot of land, I saw a bulldozer with caution tape around it. Plus, I saw gardeners pulling some plants out in the garden next to the covered bridge in between Action Theater and Firefall. The side the garden it was on is toward Rip Roaring Rapids. Some wild guesses is that the garden could be an enterance to a coaster and that huge plot of land could be where a coaster would be located OR the huge plot of land can become a water park expansion. The Invertigo site would be hard to put a coaster in there, though a nice big flat ride could be located there (large Screamin' Swing, Star Flyer).

Transfomers 3. Saw it for the first time an hour ago. Watching Transformers 3 is like going on a roller coaster... ...for 2 Hours!

GCI Coaster @ California's Great America

Though, there's probably not a big ride being built, such as a roller coaster, since construction for large coasters usually starts around now for land clearings.

The gondola was shaking when they were testing the ride after people were stuck on it for 5 minutes right side up. I think our hopes for a new ride for 2012 should be over. Unless, they build a new ride on Invertigo's site, there is no land clearings anywhere that I could see, I even checked today on Star Tower.

Yeah, it was open, but as of a few hours ago-around 6:40 or so, the choice was made to close it for the day as it kept having the same problem repeatedly and was actually spending more time down than running it with guests on board, so it was closed so the problem could try to be identified and fixed. Hopefully it will be back up soon and the bugs worked out with it, it's only been Firefall's second day of running with guests on it. I saw people stuck on the top of Firefall for 5 minutes during the fireworks. After, they starting testing it and the part of the ride that moves started shaking.

I went to CGA last night after 8pm, and it was the most crowded CGA was for as long as I could remember. For 90 minutes, I only could ride one ride, Grizzly. I saw the fireworks also, they were good. Though, the lines were out of control and it was hard to even go through the park because it was jam-packed.

You'd be surprised by that- Most of the early generation (Non-flywheel) Schwarzkopf Shuttle Loops chewed through cables like an Accelerator coaster from Intamn does; not to mention, each day the weight assembly required lubrication, the motors tended to wear out (Especially in higher traffic parks; KD replaced/removed/restored the motors on KK every YEAR!) and other smaller things. In all reality, other than the motor, it was labor costs as well as the novelty wearing out; where we respect and value a Schwarzkopf Shuttle Loop, the general public does not. Only three of the flywheel Shuttles still live on- One at Hopi Hari, and the other is KK's model- itself a hybrid of the two Great America models. The remainder are the flywheel drive system models. Sadly, the parts aren't avaliable anymore, which almost requires a park to build replacements by hand, or as the case of Greezed Lightning at KK, cannibalize another model for replacement parts. Hopi Hari rebuilt the old KK from the ground up, and replaced all of the parts by hand- including the original weight system with a more beneficial cement block in the 'tube'. THe third is still extant at Gold Reef City in South Africa, it too having been rebuilt by hand when it was relocated there from Carowinds. These smaller park don't operate their shuttles nearly as frequently as the larger parks do- less than 12 times per hour, as opposed to 30-40 times per hour in a 'standard' park. This prevents parts from wearing out over time, making them feasable for these small parks. I'd LOVE for Intamin to get off their duffs and build a LSM version of the Schwarzkopf Shuttle loop. It would, I think, be a big win for small parks wanting to break into the big ride market. Isn't Montezooma's Revenge a flywheel Schwarzkopf Shuttle Loop Coaster?

^^Enchanted Kingdom

^There are over 40 boomerangs in the world, though because it's foreign, that would limit the number of parks tremendously.

Favorite steel: -Top Gun (Flight Deck) @ CGA. Favorite wood: -Grizzly @ CGA, yep I think it's better than Giant Dipper at Santa Cruz

Demon @ CGA and Giant Dipper @ Santa Cruz both have 100% straight drops and both coasters can be painful, but the drops are actually one of the best parts of both rides and one of the smoothest parts of both coasters. Straight drops are as painful as curved drops.

Invertigo @ CGA, saw the news first on Screamscape, and at that moment I hoped that was just one of Screamscape's "rumors". It's even worse because CGA is my home park.

Placing Fanboy/Schwarzkopf Junkie hat on first... There is only one real difference between Montezooma's Revenge and Tidal Wave: The propulsion unit. Monte is the 'new' generation flywheel design, the Tidal wave, as was the prototype at KD (King Kobra) were the original weight-drop models. RCDB lists multiple lengths of track, but this is not necessarily correct: Schwarzkopf.coaster.net, which is the encyclopedia of Schwarzkopf coasters, lists lengths as nearly identical- at 722 feet. However, it can be safely assumed that tracks may have been modified in park- but only to the tower ends. The base launch structures remained the same for all models. Changing one from flywheel to weight-drop would be irrelevant, but one could replace (in theory- but NOT going to happen here!) Tidal wave with Monte. But I think the odds on that are like having a dual eclipse tommorow night here in AZ. THe difference comes if your raise up one model over the other- It's an optical illusion that Monte looks different- as it's got so much more stuff going on around it to make it look like a different length. Schwarzkopf only did one variant on his shuttle loops- and that was the rather infamous WienerLooping shuttle loop- which in itself is actually a variant of the Katapult series of flywheel/power axle design systems. R.D. "Schwarzkopf forever" Sussmann Thank you for clearing that up. I wasn't sure but I thought I read somewhere there was a difference in track length. I always liked the weight drop version more, don't know why really, maybe because of how the train was katapulted, very neat rides....both of them. I never take off my fanboy Schwarzkopf hat....never! Speaking of which, doesn't his son run the company now and if so, have they built any new coasters? I thought when Anton Schwarzkopf died in the early 2000s that the company was sold to Intamin.

I saw Cedar Fair's trademarks and the last two they put in are StratoSoar and Stinger. I was wondering what Stinger is but it probably is Invertigo's new name.

I think it's more of a noise problem rather than the height limit problem. I remember seeing some renderings of the GCI that was planned to be put into CGA. Itt wasn't that tall but the offices right next to the park wouldn't allow another noisy wooden coaster to be built. I'm so angry at those offices, if it wasn't for them, the gci MIGHT have been built in 2009/2010.

All the pics from this page are great! Mightbeawannabe, your picture from the last page was also great.

Vortex at Great America has endless headbanging, but if you know what to do, you can limit the headbanging tremendously. The Giant Dipper at Santa Cruz is really rough and painful if you don't sit in the front AND you can't pick your seat on Giant Dipper meaning you don't have a guaranteed front seat. So for me it's a tie between Vortex and Giant Dipper.

Top Gun (Flight Deck) and Grizzly at CGA have good endings. Top Gun has a helix over the water and Grizzly brakes hard. Hurricane @ Santa Cruz has a good ending, it has a 70 - 80 degree banked helix at the end. Vortex at CGA is lame. It goes up around 25-30 feet going at a slow speed during a boring turn then hits the brakes.

Demon @ California's Great America. Still, to this day it's the most inversions on a coaster that I've ever ridden, 4 of them.

The 2012 attraction, I'm hoping would be a new GCI Coaster where the Cedar Point Cyclone used to be. Though, that's probably not going to happen. Though if Cedar Point wants another family ride, they can put in a Family Drop Coaster like Th13teen in Alton Towers.

This picture came from FlickR. ^^This pic is what this thread's pics are supposed to look like, see I don't want this to look exactly the same as Guess the Roller Coaster. Also, I took out the new rule to make everyone, including myself, happy. Yes, it was too easy with that new rule. Start guessing the pic.