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Aww this thread is so cute! Makes me nostalgic for all my dumb old high school boyfriends In regards to the people here who are hatin' on the teens and their high school relationships, I think that dating in high school, while unlikely to wield a long-term relationship post high school, is a pretty valuable training ground for what is to come in adulthood. Even if none of these relationships end up meaning very much, it's when you start to learn what works and what doesn't, and what kind of person you are compatible with. I can imagine that trying to get into the dating scene in college would be significantly more awkward if you don't have any practice at it. And it's rare, but you never know, sometime high school relationships end up going the distance (but usually that is only with nutty religious types... no offense to anyone!) And to the folks coping with long-distance relationships, well, you've got my sypmathies. It's definitely a challenge. It certainly should not be attempted by anyone with jeaousy issues, and trust is key. Also, another downfall is that when you don't get to interact in person often, you don't discover issues in the relationship that would naturally come up otherwise. But that doesn't mean long-distance relationships can't totally work. I was with my boyfriend for a year with him living in Connecticut and me livin gin Houston. Now I have moved to Connecticut and we live together and everything is going great! (Plus I have a new home park, which is pretty cool!)

As mentioned before in the Gerstlauer press release thread, it is confirmed that Iron Shark will have new 8-passenger lapbar only vehicles. Also, the Pleasure Pier facebook posted a picture of the Iron Shark logo. Looks great!

Ok, so I can obviously tell as well as everyone else that you are at MCO. Most of the clues make me think you are headed to Australia. "Outback" implies you're headed down under. Virgin Atlantic offers service to Australia. The "GREEN" picture I'm thinking is hinting that you are on your way to check out the new Green Lantern coaster at Warner Bros Movie World?? The picture of the train I'm assuming is just more evidence that you're at MCO. I haven't come up with anything for Best Buy or CNN yet, and I have no idea idea what the Bread Cat is all about, but it is certainly adorable. The Manta picture could be just more evidence for Orlando airport, or it could also have more Australian implications. Perhaps it is a reference to manta rays that swim around Australia's great Barrier Reef? Or maybe you're showing something from Sea World because you'll be visiting the unaffiliated Sea World in Australia? So most of the clues make me think Australia. However, I did some digging, and read that the Outback restaurant at the Orlando airport is in Terminal B.... which would rule out Virgin Atlantic and TAM, and tell me that you were flying Lufthansa! I'm confused by that. Perhaps it's a mistake on the website??

I just thought of something. If Rattler does indeed get the Iron Horse overhaul and becomes a steel roller coaster, SFFT will become the only park in the chain to not have a wooden roller coaster. Not that it matters I guess. Just making an observation. Perhaps down the road they could add their own American Thunder-esque GCI over in the Boardwalk...

^ Sorry, but what is so unique about Olynpia Looping? Anyway: -Linear Gale, the odd-one-out Impulse coaster that had no twists. -Moonsault Scramble was a one of a kind massive shuttle coaster that was (poorly) designed by TOGO. -Atlantis Adventure, the only Intamin Aquatrax.... so far...

^That would sound logical to me. Also. I would imagine they would announce they were closing it before they did. SFOT announced that Texas Giant would be closed for 2010 all the way back in '09.

suspect the person who moderates the facebook for SFMM probably has limited information about future plans anyway. But I hope Viper will not meet the same fate as her sisters!

^Good point. That would be fine then. But I still wouldn't complain about another ten or twenty feet

Poltergeist leaving SFFT for SFMM? A B&M Dive Machine and an Intamin Giga being built at SFMM in the same year?? A thirty-year-old busted Vekoma boomerang leaving SFNE for a park that has already removed a more updated version of the same model??? My head is about to explode! These ride-rotation rumors have gotten seriously out of hand. Firstly, a lot of the recent coaster relocations have not been the result of any kind of RRP, but have resulted from the closure of various SF properties (Green Lantern, GCG, Ednor, etc.) Also, it makes perfect sense that when SF builds large new attractions in the Big 4 parks, and have to remove older or less popular attractions to make room for them, that they would recycle the rides by moving them to smaller parks as new attractions in markets where they would seem like something new and exciting. But it wouldn't make any kind of sense for Poltergeist (as an example), which is one of the more popular attractions at SFFT, to be relocated to SFMM, where it would seem like a tiny and insignificant addition by comparison to the other coasters at that park. And as for this alleged list of one coaster from every park to be donated to the ride rotation program, where did this rumor come from? Beacuse I have only seen this "list" mentioned on TPR. By teenagers. Not trying to be condescending, but I just want to know what the source for this is.

The reason I would like to see the lift height raised is so it doesn't slowly crawl through elements such as the helix. But anyway, I don't see how the triple helix can be made all that exciting. If it slowly meanders through a triple helix, it's boring and monotonous, and if it takes a triple helix at a high speed, it would probably be way too intense. Just my thoughts.

I feel like Rattler's layout is ok, but certainly doesn't live up to it's full potential. A lot of the elements would be much more fun if the train didn't creep along at a snails pace through them. Here's what I imagine an ideal Iron Horse makeover would entail for Rattler: 1. Increase the lift height by 15 or 20 feet. 2. Reprofile the first drop to an OMFG near-vertical similar to NTAG's, that goes nearly to the ground. 3. Replace the current fan-turn thing with a lower overbanked turn. 4. Replace the ascension to the current helix with an airtime-inducing double-up (a la NTAG). 5. Replace the snore-worthy triple-helix with a fast, intense single helix into MCBR. 6. Steep drop off the MCBR into the existing tunnel. 8. Everything after the tunnel should be totally replaced. Maybe another highly banked right turn, two or three ejector-seat bunny hops, and an intense El Toro-esque figure eight finale into the brakes. All wishful thinking of course.

^^^ Hahaha that took me a minute. Man, you would think SF would have given that Vekoma Roller Skater to SFStL instead of SFMM, which already has two kiddie coasters. But of course that wouldn't help their attempts at keeping SFMM's coaster count atop the list.

I hate to say it, but if their not going to give Rattler the complete NTAG treatment, they just need to scrap it and replace with a hyper.

If I recall correctly, didn't Robb post a video from IAPPA in chich he interviewed someone from RMC who said they were had a project lined up to build a traditional wooden coaster? I do remember quite clearly that they said they were launching their own wooden coaster trains. So this could be wooden.

As awesome as the highly-detailed and realistic computer generated renderings of new attractions they make today are, there's something to be said for beautiful hand-drawn renderings like this one.

I don't know if this would quite qualify as a mass ride removal as there aren't a huge amount of them to begin with, but it seems the overly-large woodies we saw pop up mostly in early 90's (with some a little later on) might be disappearing soon enough. Hercules is gone, Texas Giant has been Iron Horsed, SoB is SBNO and likely to get the wrecking ball. So it wouldn't surprise me to see Mean Streak and the Rattler either razed or given the Rocky Mountain treatment as well at some point in the not too distant future. And if I'm wrong, I still wouldn't be surprised if we just don't see many more of these monstrous woodies built. Hades, Boss, and Voyge for example have gotten reputations for being super rough and requiring a huge amount of extra maintenance. I feel like (as wonderful as the can be when they first open) woodies built that big just end up tearing themselves apart (along with the alignment of the spines of their riders). Intamin Prefabs obviously are exluded from this.

^Hey Larry, I totally hear you I was really just trying to explain where the whole topic of Bizarro came up in relation to SFStL as it seemed people were confused about what the rumors going around were, and I sort of ended up on a tangent about Screamscape and whatnot. Sorry about that! Anyway, just to clarify, I only brought up Bizarro as an idea about something I think would be neat to see in SFStL, not as speculation that it would actually happen.

First, I just want to say that when I initially brought up the whole Bizarro topic, I never meant to imply that there was a rumor that the ride was headed to SFStL. I was only saying that there was a rumor that the ride would be getting relocated to another park. I was only saying that I thought SFStL would be the best potential candidate. Also, of course rumors are always just that: rumors. However, some rumors come from a more credible source, whereas others just start from someone making a comment on a message board somewhere. This particular rumor was brought up on Screamscape. Lance Hart, the editor of Screamscape has an extensive network of industry personnel from which he gets his information, and I do know that he is very picky about who he hears information from, and also how many sources he hears it from, before he bothers to post something on his site. But still that shouldn't suggest that it is any more than a rumor. I'm just saying that this one probably comes from a slightly more credible source. Anyway... I think it's already been demonstrated well enough that Bizarro could easily fit into the spot to the east of Tidal Wave (which, as mentioned before, would help rejuvenate that area of the park). Also, I can't agree that the coaster is "too large" for SFStL. And I certainly don't think it would have popularity issues. It's relatively popular enough at SFGAdv (I went on a Monday and waited in line for half an hour), and that is in a park where it is competing for attention with an arsenal of 4 other B&Ms, along with some other massive monsters (Ka and El Toro). At a park like SFStL, it would be one of the premiere attractions, and would certainly garner more attention and popularity. Just my thoughts.

That's exactly the spot I had in mind. The reason Darien Lake ended up with an awesome Intamin hyper back then was because the park had just been acquired by Six Flags along with SFA and SFNE etc, and they were dumping money into to it to try and make the park into a destination of a higher calibur. It worked in some cases (SFNE) and not so much in others (Darien Lake).

There are plenty of parks which are landlocked but still manage to add major new coasters again again (cough*Hersheypark). But anyway, six ecres is GREAT. Mean Streak is HUGE and takes up way more space than would be necessary. Boardwalk Bullet sits on ONE acre (and is definitely a better coaster than Mean Streak). I think a compact GCI would be a PERFECT addition for Dorney. Another idea I had for Dorney would be some kind of full circuit launch coaster that flies around over Thunder Canyon. Maybe something along the lines of Cheetah Hunt, Rita, or Manta? I don't know, just a fantasy.

I agree with Screamin_Eagle that SFSL needs a hyper. The park has a really good lineup of rides, but what would you say is the SIGNATURE ride of the park? The park really does have a solid collection, but it's missing one more really big flagship ride. There are only two other parks in the chain that don't have a hyper (SFDK and SFFT). However, if plans are being made to relocate Medusa/Bizarro, it might as well go to SFSL. It would make the most sense. The only other park in the chain that doesn't have a floorless and could easily fit Bizarro without removal of a major ride is SFA, and they just got regifted with IW/Apocalypse. So anyway, I think it would be great if SFSL got Bizarro in 2013, and then maybe two or three years down the line added a hyper.

Maybe people would see it as a patriotic tribute to... whatever his name was.

I always liked Vortex's color scheme. I've even copied it on RCT2!

Mayyyybe, but I would be very very surprised. They are EXTREMELY space-limited from what I understand. And also, I don't think their attendance would really merit an addition of that size. I thinks that's why they never got they go-ahead to install the SLC they were storing for a few years, which eventually got shipped to La Ronde (which makes me think, La Ronde could be another possibility.) I personally think St. Louis would be the best fit.

Well the rumor on Screamscape is that Bizarro at SFGAdv is rumored to be removed for a new coaster and relocated to another park. So I was thinking St. Louis would be the best candidate. That wouldn't be too bad right?