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And Geauga Lake isn't?!?! Geauga lake is purely a waterpark, last i heard KK was still operating rides in some capacity/bringing in more rides As such, i have *0* reason to ever visit GL Again, i'm not a waterpark guy.

Kentucky Kingdom. Is still open, at least, partially Intresting news is popping up though that the big dipper may actually *HAVE* been purchased now, but we don't know for sure yet until someone can confirm/deny it

Records eh? 442 rides on Phantoms Revenge (1 of them was while it was still Steel phantom and i was BARELY tall enough to ride that young) 334 rides on Xflight (SFWOA/GL) 239 rides on Raging wolf bobs (SFWOA/GL)

Isn't RWBs already partially demolished? I'm pretty sure I remember seeing pictures of the ride with some parts already taken down. I definitely don't recall anyone really making a fuss over that ride being torn down. RWB Wasn't built in the 1920's, wasnt one of the original major rides of the park, and had almost no actual history beyond being tamed into nothing by a massive reprofiling Another factor? The Well-hidden-but-soon-to-be-very-public owner bought the dipper for 5,000$ or so at auction, this was no secret to anyone he then tried selling the ride for something like 100,000$, and then 65,000$ Needless to say, people don't want to give him 10+ times what he paid for it, given the amount of work that would be required to move the ride

80x2 = 160 minutes, or 2h:40m, Cost breakdown Season pass = 90$ Total trip cost (Gas, tolls) = 27$ round trip Parking = 0$ Eating twice in-park = 12$ Drinks in park = 8-10$ total Not counting my season pass cost, thats 49$ to spend the entire day there Cedar point 30-46$ admission (Or what? 200+ for a season pass to CF, of which, only 1 park is day trip possible (CP)) Total trip cost (G/T) = 27$ or so, depending on route Parking = 10$ (Last time i was there.) Eating twice in the park = 16-20$ or more, depending Drinks in park = upwards of 15$ Still not feeling it. and even on a weekday unless i want to chain ride gemini, Disaster transport, blue streak, wildcat, and mantis i'm likely to wait in several hour+ lines (Maverick, Millie, Magnum on occasion, Top Fail, Raptor, Twister) Granted now that school is back in, that's a non-issue, But lets not forget CF Ride closing policies, i've ridden phantom in pouring downpours, same for sky rocket, Good luck with that at CP unless you're already on the ride before it hits

How does it take you that long from northeast Ohio? It takes me exactly 3 from Pittsburgh, 2:40-ish from Grove City/Slippery Rock, PA, and my roommate is from Erie and has gotten there in 2:30-ish. On a side note, does anyone know how the water park did this year? I know there were rumors floating around that this year was "make it or break it" for that park. 3 hours total, i should have stated, my mistake - i was typing fast Essentially, my point is that i'd waste the same amount of travel time, but pay almost 3 times as much overall Its not uncommon for me to day-trip to kennywood, waste the whole day in the park and get upwards of 7 rides on every major rollercoaster, or do the same for CP, spend twice as much, and be lucky to get on half the major coasters once (especially if i want to ride maverick or Millenium more than once) not to mention the food being twice as expensive (On par with six flags, but worse in quality at a majority of the eateries) and the overall lack of family draw

'cept, for me, it backfired, it was just one more reason to avoid CF Parks For instance, Cedar point is a 3-hour 100$+ Trip, if i'm lucky i'll get on half the major coasters ONCE, and feed myself once on food worse than what i can get from a school cafeteria Or, i can drive 83 minutes to Kennywood on 40$ and spend the whole day there on that (20$ in gas, 20$ for food = 3 meals + Drinks of excellent quality) Not to mention the much more awesome traditional feel to Kennywood, the better rides (Phantom and skyrocket > Top fail, though Millie and Maggie are both pretty good when you can get several rides in, Phantom stealing my #1 spot from MF last year) and the better atmosphere in general Not to mention my younger cousins can actually ride everything but Skyrocket now, given KW's low height requirements on everything where at cedar point they pretty much cant do anything but walk around or ride really crap kiddie rides they outgrew 2 years ago Take a wild guess where our money goes? Give you a hint, starts with K and ends with ennywood, my family, my aunts church group, their families, etc. go to kennywood because they enjoy it more and Geauga lake is closed Smart move for cedar fair, Stupid move for six flags, but one thing: Cedar fair DID pull the rug out from under people with GL's closing, there was no warning to speak of, they just closed it, let it sit a while, then started tearing the place down, then used a lot of shady business (Like the joke of an auction and the constant removal of anything showing the teardown) to keep it off the books I Have a CD Worth of photos showing the quality of rides and things left at GL Pre-teardown from my short visit there after closing (Legit - i was there with the demo company working on Raging wolf) the dipper was in pristine condition, though i doubt it is now GL Was literally a stones throw from me, i always went there with friends, even before CF, it was an amazing park, if it were in any way a plausible thing, I'd love to see the dipper saved, hell, with my income i could literally buy it, the problem being logistics, the ride wasn't openly or obviously for sale until now, though we'd all heard rumors of him trying to pass it off for 100k (He paid 5k for it, and doesn't pay rent on it) If he wants rid of it, and wants to legit see it saved, he would have sold it for twice what he paid, came out ahead, and let someone move it But, like everything else, it's demolition is all just part of the plan, and it was from day 1 And robb, it may be a mediocre ride with good airtime, but then again, so is the blue streak at conneaut, and look what happened? we all grouped up and helped save it, we got it the grant, they're actively working to restore the ride, and it will continue to run for years to come, i paid my share in the form of 5 rides on it during it's operating weekend The thing there though is that the park WANTED it saved, they realize it's value to enthusiasts as a piece of history, and it's place in local history, where cedar fair just wants every trace of Geauga lake Bulldozed to ashes You should have been at the farce open townhall meetings about it robb, they were some of the best comedy id seen, ever.

Tom woosnam of Apex, to be exact He was at the meetings about the dipper, supposedly he's the owner As for the big dipper, this thing is historic, it's the last piece of history at the former Geauga lake Demolishing it wouldnt go over well, being that it's one of the oldest wooden coasters in the world

Uh, Skyrocket front seat holds you about 2 seconds or more completely vertically And? no pain, not uncomfortable at all, the bars are heavily padded, a short hold for a dive machine is completely possible Now, for a FLOORLESS dive machine, like griffon, where the leg-pad option wouldnt work, you'd still need OTSR's

http://rcdb.com/8612.htm?p=28106 Same deal, restrictive to the lower body for safety, but completely free on the upper body for maximum thrill Personally, people are just scared of them because the media makes such an ungodly deal about the one-in-9-billion accident where some idiot didnt properly secure the bar or the hardware failed and they panicked

To the "Lap bars don't work for anything other than loops crowd" gtfo Sincerely, Zonga, Skyrocket, and every launched premier looper with lapbars, Every X-car, and any i'm missing Honestly, Skyrocket at kennywood with the weird new premier restraints is a good example here, it's impossible to fall out of the car without a serious restraint failure because of the way the lapbar is designed to work with the seat In today's market, where a lot of us are looking for that next crazy thrill, i can see them catching on, they ARE a bit restrictive to your legs, but that ends up being a blessing (no kneebanging and it's ACE-r friendly) and they leave your upper body free

Needless to say, i LOVE Eurofighters SFOG Is already a great park, this looks like a great addition to the lineup

Lot of cluttered desktops in here Win7 x64 + Quicklaunch = <3

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To be honest, i like these new "Box" trains better, They look more classic, which fits the theme kennywood really has going with all it's coasters Sky rocket literally looks like they took one of those crazy coaster models, blew it up to full size, and plunked it down in kennywood, and i really like that

Probably because doing so would have made the hill placement more awkward, doing it this way allows a shorter curve on the drop side, allowing a longer steeper drop, which is more thrilling I see this being a great ride in the front, slowly hanging down the drop as you wait for the last car to let off the trims Yeah, cant wait to see this start testing

Clocking in with my 2 cents here Having ridden it both untrimmed and now, trimmed, i have to say, the difference in intensity really only applies to the second hill The extreme insane shoulders-to-the-bar airtime is no longer there, but the lack of trims on the 3rd large airtime hill does increase the intensity of the end a bit Is it a worse ride? worse beginning than MF, Better ending, i'll miss the insane blackout into ejector wakeup it used to have if this is a "Permanent" fix, but it's still up there with the best steelies i've been on What makes me wonder though: Why does I305 eat wheels faster than MF? One would think the speedcurves and low, intense overbanks on MF would cause similar levels of wear, no? Perhaps the first turn isnt entirely to blame, it's the whole first fast section that may be doing it, at any rate, i still love the ride, and thats good enough for me.

Wow, really? No airgates even on "newer" coasters like Phantom's Revenge? I know some parks don't use them on old Vekomas/Arrows and people are just fine without them but Kennywood being an American park I thought they would try to avoid any possible lawsuits from stupid riders steping when they are not supposed to. no air gates on phantom, if you even STEP on the red line at the end of the queue for a row, you will be berated over the PA System until you move, same goes for sitting on the rails for the queue spots On TB it's the same as phantom, and Jackrabbit just lets people in from the line in a group, seating being first come first serve It's quite nice really

It looks Quite forceful as well, some serious height-difference on the overbank and tophat Although, the hill doesnt look very "Vertical" But looks like some very fun airtime

Courtesy of the Kennywood facebook page

I must be weird then, i can chain ride standups and enjoy them every time Heck, i rode Vortex @ Carowinds 9 times in the back row and never had a bad ride

Finally got the time and money aside to sign up Can't Wait Robb!

Very much yes, especially B&M The crazy turns from things like Georgia scorcher would work well on a hyper

This is kinda a moot point unless they do away with the free parking lot, which is only a slightly longer walk Edit: If free "Paid" parking is one of the perks At any rate, with as much as i visit kennywood, i'll be picking one up

Probably, Was there on a trip with family, i'll have to dig through the trip photos and see what i can find, i SHOULD have a few hiding on a card somewhere