John Peck

The sale hasen't even gone through, these are all Kennywood Inc.'s Plans. The sale is supposed to happen in March sometime.

You forgot "Deck of Cards" and "Poop Deck" for Christmas, they could call it "Deck the Halls"

I do hope something is added to the park besides a coaster here soon (not counting TT) This park just has too many outdoor rides when you compare them to the local parks, so when weather is a factor, theres nothing else really to do when your waiting for the weather to clear. Here's a couple ideas I have had that would be quite marketable and reduce operational costs: - Purchase the used Maliboomer from DCA & put it where Freefall is - Remove Deja Vu or Superman (Personally, I think both could go) - Go the Tony Hawk route and have an indoor skate show as well as the coaster (a combo of both) - Build a Boardwalk Themed Area consisting of several Zamperla rides: A covered Tea Cup, a Disk-O, a Flying Carousel (Wave Swinger) Kite Flyer, and about 3 other rides. Then, you could Move the Swinging Ship to the Boardwalk, remove the Yo-Yo and put a Giant Wheel in the spot of both of them. That area is levitated, so the Wheel would appear taller. - Put in a water playground for families with other water related dry rides (River Battle, etc)

After seeing the trains for the ride opening in Germany, I wonder if the track would allow for the use of polyurithane wheels as opposed to the tires that Hypersonic used. I mean, that was one of the big problems with this, right? The bouncing of the tires?

Great shot of the ferris wheel! thats was my favorite ride as a kid because it seemed so big. I like the Enterprise "product photo" they show here. I think it was 79 when they moved the Scrambler and Fly-O-Planes next to Double Loop.

In regards to the flat ride statement about ROI, I both agree and disagree. You can market them if you have a really large flat ride (Maxair, Delerium) or new section (Dollywood's Country Carnival) consisting of a group of flats or you go the Holiday World route and advertise one major attraction (Kima Bay) and add a flat or two for the dry park. Of course, 4 of the last 6 flat rides added to Holiday World have been replacements for other flat rides. (Revolution for Roundhouse, Hallow Swings for Banshee, Turkey Whirl for Virginia Reel (Tilt), and the Carousel for the Bumper Boats. Liberty Launch and Reindeer Games were/are replacing existing structures. But think about this, both SFoG and SFoT have put together large flat ride packages in recent years, and scattered them throughout the park. And SFGrAm and SFNO did new themed lands using a handful of flats and a coaster. And other parks are able to get away with 1 or 2 flat ride expansions (Kennywood, Dorneypark, Silverwood, Wonderland) in their off years. Thats why I was a little disappointed when I heard they only really had 1 new ride for Thomas Town and one retheme

I don't understand how people can sit here and say both Cedar point and Kings Island have taken a turn for the worse. They obviously still have their numbers and continue to thrill a new generation. I say enjoy what you have now, because nothing stays the same.

I think any coaster they add would be great for that park. They already have a neat selection of flat rides, including a 24-Passenger Venture Scat

You could always fly into Indianapolis, rent your car and fly out of Cincinatti, or vice versa. Just make sure the car rental place you use is at both locations

SFStL is re-routing/moving Moon Cars, not completely removing them. Oh thats good to know. I thought they were a gonner.

It's going to get to a point when Superman is just too costly to maintain and operate. I just think a better use of that area would be to pull down that Coaster and put an S&S tower in it's place and retain the queue

Any word on those Antique cars being relocated? With both SFMM and SF St. Louis pulling out their cars, I wonder if they will be sent out to other parks. (not to mention whats left from Astroworld)

How about the "Jump for Jesus Trampoline ride" (Taken respectively from "Fletch Lives")

Wow! Thanks for posting those. I certainly believe this ride will deliver plenty of happy faces, and give something truely unique to the area.

Yikes. Most Cedar Fair names don't bug me that much, but Flight Deck seems to take laziness to an extreme. I doubt their removing much of the aircraft look, but with that, they could have come up with about a hundred flight-related names. For Example: • Afterburner • Mach-10 • Silver Streak • Iron Eagle Just to name a few. Come on Cedar Fair, your better than that.

Im sure this has been covered somewhere, but here's a few picts from the GCI Interns site: http://www.greatcoastersinterns.com/photos.php

Thanks for all this great coverage, Shane! Christmas has come early this year. Shame they pulled down Orient Express, it looked like one amazing ride. Too bad it started having structural issues which led to it's removal.

The closest i ever came to that park was when we passed it to go to Cypress Gardens in 1985. I remember the giant wheel and we saw the Wiener Looping, whick looked insane even from the road: http://www.rcdb.com/ig680.htm?picture=1

Yes, I see exactly what your getting at. I was thinking in terms of ticket price only. I also want to apoligize since I didn't realize this was your already planned vacation, I was thinking it was a spur of the moment thingy. Hope your not mad.

^ Yeah, $850 is a little better. Thats about the right price, but still, $990 is just higher than what i would want to pay, especially for such a large ship with soooo many passengers. I haven't looked, but I wonder if they offer a free shuttle from the airport. Most lines do in fact offer that. Or some hotels will shuttle you from the airport, to the hotel (day before, for example) and to the pier the next day. We've done that. Of course, the BIG thing you have to consider also is airfare, you can get a cruise at a decent price, but airfare can get ya.

The cruise idea is great, but $900 seems kinda high for this. I've been on 4 cruises already and have enjoyed each one to the fullest. Here's my thought, since theres not much time to plan for this and considering airfare will be rediculous, you may want to plan this for Feb 2009. It's always much, much cheaper to book things several months ahead. I would assume you want something in the dead of winter before spring break (another event that drives prices up), and if thats the case, you might be wise to consider 2009. Plus, people can plan that a litle better.

Double Loop, and it would be nice if it survives.

The photo halfway down on page 5 thats captioned "best flat ride on this trip" What exactly did it do? Id there a generic name for it? Im a flat ride fan.

One of my favorite drops is the one on Tennessee Tornado with the tunnel... plus it's all Arrow Goodness. I like KI's Vortex's 1st drop as well

Thought I'd share this with you all here. I made it, just let me know what you think.