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Again, awesome report. What on Earth is that bell thing? It looks like a really low capacity inverted swinging ship.

But, surely, a common understanding requires an agreed upon set of basic rules. Would it not be less total effort for you to bend to what the rest of us already understand, than for all of us to have to work to understand your concept of legibility? /Jazz sucks.

Nice TR. As one might expect, some photos worked better than others. Overall, though, I liked it. Good job!

I don't know, Zach. I really like Holiday World, and I've spent two days there in the past without getting bored. I maybe take my time a bit more in my old age than I used to, but I still think the park has a lot to offer beyond just the three great coasters: log flume, rapids ride, shooting dark ride, some fun basic flats (Turkey Whirl, HallowSwings), lots of great food, some fun shops, the water park, Holidog's Fun Town.... I'm not just a "coaster enthusiast." I'm more of a "park enthusiast." Plus, Santa Claus also has the Candy Castle, the Santa Claus Museum, Frosty's Fun Center.... But, again, we probably will go ahead and give SFKK at least a couple of hours to impress us before we move on. Oh, and sorry for the total threadjack, Homeboy.

Wait...they've only been open, like, three weeks. Yes. If you look at a map of the area, there are actually lots of places to view Cedar Point from Sandusky's downtown coastline. But Battery Park is the easiest to access and to get an unobstructed view from (that I've found).

I guess my point is that we need the term hypercoaster to describe a particular type of ride: a large steel coaster that mimics the actions of a traditional wooden coaster. Son of Beast is wooden coaster. That it's really big probably doesn't justify describing it in some other, more obtuse way. Calling it a hypercoaster is like, well, calling Steel Force a wooden coaster because it mimics a wooden coasters actions. It's completely misleading. It just seems to me that the logical conclusion of the opposite argument is to categorize all coasters by size, regardless of what they do.

He's talking about a dark ride, not a coaster. And a coaster certainly can auto E-stop if the ride system is set up for it to do so. Some rides E-stop themselves, some don't. Some are very simple to reset, some aren't. There's a whole big world out there.

Well, they are kind of similar. I still wish the Disk'O had been enclosed and had an animatronic bear. (And of course the bear thing kinda sorta happened with Timber Tower.)

I think there's just one. Anyway, nice TR. It deserved better than 1 comment, so I'm dragging it back from page 2.

This TR is all kinds of awesome. I'd never even heard of Waarbeek. Looks pretty cool.

Honestly, I haven't been on SFMM's Goliath since its media day. But that third hill then was amazing. Probably the longest single period of time I've ever been held up out of my seat. Yeah, not an airtime machine otherwise--but still some on the first drop (in the back) and a bit on the turnaround drop. No airtime during the second half, but I liked the swoopy Schwarzkopf-iness of it. I guess I just have weird taste. Or maybe it rides a lot different now. But I seem to recall lots of other folks that weren't exactly blown away that day. (Like, um, Robb. Or Mr. Mailman.) /"Thank god for the midcourse block brake."

^ Yeah, well, I'm not much of a credit whore. But the idea of going to a park I've never been to is pretty appealing. I'm just not sure what I would be going there for. ^^ Yeah, that's kind of my issue. There's nothing really at the park (that I've seen) that jumps out at me. On the other hand, I've never been. But I know Holiday World is good. So maybe I should just spend two days there. Decisions, decisions. Anyway, thanks for the TR. /I'll probably check it out.

Interesting. I'll probably be doing pretty much the same thing on Monday and Tuesday. I've been to Holiday World several times, but I'm really struggling with whether to finally give SFKK a shot or just spend both days at HW.

I agree. Millennium Force has four spots of really strong floater air. One could argue that four spots is not "enough," or that they are not (as I have described them) "really strong," but I am convinced that anyone who claims they don't exist at all is simply trolling. /Likes Goliath at SFMM, too. What's your point?

I love the summary. I actually did read the whole thing as it came out, but I still enjoyed this...er, theme park review.

Thanks for the TR! Looks like you had some really terrible picture-taking weather. Good job despite that, though.

Oh, and I agree that Mystery Mine's first half has gotten worse. But, frankly, that first half was always a bit bangy. The elements are simply too small for a ride with over-the-shoulder restraints.

Cool photos. Especially this one:

Let me just chime in on this one, as well: That's really cool. I don't think I've ever seen a photo quite like that before. Thanks for the TR!

Nice photos. I adore Kennywood. And I really need to make it up to Waldameer.

Wow. I've never seen Dollywood that busy--and I almost live there.

Which really makes no sense. Again, we all know what we mean when we say "hypercoaster." If someone told me their favorite hypercoaster was Steel Eel, I would be totally okay with that. On the other hand, if someone told me Moonsault Scramble was their favorite hyper, I'd punch them in the face. Metaphorically speaking, of course. /Magnum is not a mine train.

Dude, it's all made up anyway--mostly by us (enthusiasts). The first hyper (Magnum) just happened to be over 200-feet tall, so we threw that in as a "requirement." And it made sense for a while, when all the new ones were also over 200-feet. But it's completely artificial. We all know what a hypercoaster is, even if we don't happen to have our tape measures with us.

Yes. And to follow up on what Emiroo said, Cedar Point approached three companies: Intamin, Morgan, and B&M. Intamin bid $25 million, Morgan bid $50 million, and B&M refused to even entertain the idea of building it. For the record: I can't prove any of it. I can't even say that I know it's 100% true. I was just kind of around near that time, and that was the story told by people whose names I'd rather not drag into the conversation. What Emiroo heard might be right, or maybe even something completely different. So salt to taste.

Just to throw in my two cents: Allegedly, Cedar Point asked for a bid from B&M on what was to become Millennium Force, but B&M refused to submit one because they weren't interested in building something that big. Obviously, that was 10 years ago--so things might have changed...or could still change. Still, as others have pointed out, B&M have done quite well for themselves by playing it safe. /Imagines a B&M bid would have been three times Intamin's in any case.