Philrad71 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 ^ 100% agree. The self-entitlement & me-first attitude in this world is downright nauseating anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetrial3141592 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I still say that the policy for line-jumping should allow anyone noticing the line-jumper to take one (1) free smack at the offending party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTCO Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 After having to remove some "I'm above the rules no matter what you say" obnoxious posts by some people who have now found themselves banned from this forum (and we thank you for weeding yourselves out, hopefully your obnoxious attitude will also weed you out of some parks and the rest of us will never have to deal with you either) I will simply not tolerate people who cannot understand basic rules of visiting a theme park. I don't care if you're an annual passholder, a DVC member, a senior executive of some company, or whatever superstar you think makes you more entitled than the next person. The rules apply to EVERYONE! When it comes to line lumping, the rules are very clear... If you leave the line and come back, FOR ANY REASON, you are line jumping. If you are trying to justify your reason for doing it, you're just making excuses. I don't think I can make it any clearer than that. I couldn't agree more. As a former rides supervisor (at a Cedar Fair Park... wont go into detail... No longer employed by Cedar Fair) at a flagship roller coaster, dealing with these kinds of people every single day was an absolute headache. If park policy says "Don't do this". Then don't do it. And to whoever argued "well I just ask the people behind me if I can...". Thats crap. What about the group behind them, and behind them? With that logic you should go down the line and ask every single person if its okay. Which I do not recommend. I take line jumping seriously and have kicked more people than I can count out of line. No matter the circumstance. Not to mention its flat out rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I've seen so many families lately abuse the lines here in Korea because they think having kids means they shouldn't wait in line because it's too long. One of the park hands out passes for people who leave to re-enter at the entrance (so almost the start of the line) if they leave and takes them at the entrance since the line often spills out because the assumption is people won't be gone long and guess what happens.... people abuse it! I know I've posted about the incident I had a few times but this is the issue, parks start making it OK for families to leave for the bathroom then pretty soon you get bathroom breaks that take 30-40 minutes so the kids can grab another ride or a snack with the mommy while daddy holds the line. That's exactly what happened to me, the family never joined the line or if they did it must have been literally seconds, then for the next 80 minutes the mom phoned up her friend with the kids to tell them they weren't at the station and they magically showed when they were 2 boats away, 80 minutes later from their "bathroom break" which is what they were screaming at me and the attendant before unleashing some verbal abuse on me and trying to jump the fence at me. And I'm one of those people who grudgingly let's the people past because it's my poor wife who ends up dealing with the fallout of my objections since she speaks the language so I bite down so as not to ruin her day. You can't have a rule like that because people will always take advantage of how long their "bathroom break" was. Although in an unrelated incident, I once saw a whole group of adult Chinese tourists jump in with just one of their friends for a photo with Winnie-The-Pooh at HKDL right next to the cast-member who did nothing so it seems you really do need to say something for them to intervene instead of just saying it's against the rules. I wasn't happy but my wife loves Winnie and we were two people away and she begged me not to make a scene. Seemed really annoying that those people couldn't wait it out together when it was only a 10 minute wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rill'o'beily Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 As my dream is to open a park in my hometown, if that were to ever happen in the rides with the longer lines i'd build a toilet in the middle of the queue area. That way you can't skip the line completely back to "your place" but you don't piss off EVERYONE and you don't have an excuse to leave completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCI Wooden Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 When our family of 4 (2 kids, two parents) went to parks, when myself and my sister were young (young = single digit age), we never line jumped. We just went to the bathroom frequently BEFORE we got in lines. From the child's experience, the frequent bathroom breaks were kind if annoying, because I would rather be riding than going to the dirty bathrooms, but line jumping has always annoyed me more. And if your child needs to use the bathroom while in line, leave the line, go to the bathroom, and then enter the end of the line. It's not that complicated. To be honest, I don't even know why this discussion is happening when it's no secret that line jumping isn't allowed. If you are ever in a queue, and you walk past someone, it's line jumping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 ^Exactly. I remember plenty of times when I was younger where I thought that I was absolutely going to pee myself by the time we got on a ride. Waiting an hour in line for Magnum back when it first opened comes to mind. But I just held it and ran for the bathroom after the ride, knowing that if I left the line that I wouldn't be able to rejoin my family/friends. It was embedded into my head that line jumping was breaking the park rules...so I simply didn't do it. And I still get really annoyed when I do see people do it. I can't understand how people feel that they are entitled to do something that they know causes them to be guilty of breaking a park policy. I'm sure that these are the same types of people that I see talking on their cell phones while driving (it's against the law here in NY). It's amazing how many people I see doing it, despite the fact that they know they could get a ticket...or worse yet, go off the road and kill themselves or another person(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 This problem is at all parks. I thought it would be better at Disney - but no obviously. As the day wears on, I get less tolerant of this line jumping, but what can you do???? I've said things to people, but they just shrug their shoulders and keep going. I find it gets worse later in the day. People texting each other that they're on the ride platform and come on up. I also find it really bad at the parks in the North East like Great Adventure in New Jersey. Realistically, what can you do to prevent this with out getting into an altercation with them??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Realistically, what can you do to prevent this with out getting into an altercation with them??? Nothing. If there isn't any staff to alert you just have to take solace that you're the better person and hopefully will be rewarded later on in life for not being a terrible human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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