adamd Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Another question on RMC. Why do they have two different coaster trains? I originally thought the type of train like on Giant/Iron Rattler were for converts while the ones like on Goliath/Outlaw Run were for their start from scratch rides than I realized Medusa has the newer train as well. I'm thinking maybe cause the newer ones are safer and moving forward those are what they'll use? If anyone has insight to this please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster Rider Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Another question on RMC. Why do they have two different coaster trains? I originally thought the type of train like on Giant/Iron Rattler were for converts while the ones like on Goliath/Outlaw Run were for their start from scratch rides than I realized Medusa has the newer train as well. I'm thinking maybe cause the newer ones are safer and moving forward those are what they'll use? If anyone has insight to this please let me know. Â Â Iron Rattler and Texas Giant used Gerstlauer trains. Don't know why RMC didn't build their own trains until Outlaw Run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Don't know why RMC didn't build their own trains until Outlaw Run. Arrow trains used to run on Vekoma coasters. Also, Philadelphia Toboggan Coasters trains used to run on Gravity Group and Great Coasters coasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Don't know why RMC didn't build their own trains until Outlaw Run. I guess they were still in the process of developing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Trains usually take longer to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_koppen Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Iron Rattler and Texas Giant used Gerstlauer trains. Don't know why RMC didn't build their own trains until Outlaw Run. Â It was because Six Flags didn't want to prototype the trains, and by doing so risking any downtime. That's why they didn't buy the RMC trains until now, when Outlaw Run have run without problems for a season. It's all about the $$! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Speaking of trains, does Premier use Maurer Sohne trains for their catapult coasters or is it that Premier has been building the trains for MS all this time??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noporian Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Speaking of trains, does Premier use Maurer Sohne trains for their catapult coasters or is it that Premier has been building the trains for MS all this time??? Neither, if you look at them they're very different. Premier decided to use a similar design after maurer's success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Speaking of trains, does Premier use Maurer Sohne trains for their catapult coasters or is it that Premier has been building the trains for MS all this time??? Neither, if you look at them they're very different. Premier decided to use a similar design after maurer's success. Well it's a blatant copy IMO, the restraints are different but other than that it's the same exact concept. Seems like a lot of manufacturers are copying each other though; Mack copying Intamin, Zamperla copying Gerstlauer, Premier copying Maurer Sohne etc; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmillenia94 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 ^Not really at all. They look completely different and had never considered that they even be compared.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noporian Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 ^Not really at all. They look completely different and had never considered that they even be compared.. Â How about their new coaster design? The one that's like an extended launched skyloop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 ^Not really at all. They look completely different and had never considered that they even be compared.. Â How about their new coaster design? The one that's like an extended launched skyloop? You took the words right out of my mouth. No doubt Premier was inspired (I say copied but we'll use inspired for editorial purposes) by Maurer's sky loop and X Coaster concepts for their latest rides, especially considering their latest models look nothing like their predecessors (FoF, JJ, Mr. Freeze). Â So no doubt they were also "inspired" by their train design as well IMO Â That being said, I don't think anything is wrong with adaptation, emulation, or interpolation... I mean hell Mack and Chance are copying Intamin's mega-lite, Zamperla copying Gerstlauer's Euro fighters, B&M purse-snatched Vekoma's dutchmen, so it's nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastercrazy216 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 ^Literally the entire industry has been like this forever. This is nothing new. Remember the standup coaster that everyone copied? Inverted coaster? I mean you could argue that the wooden coaster was copied as well. It is all about what the park wants and the $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCF Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I would rather see same type of coasters that are from different manufacturers so that we don't see the same coasters at every park and do ride something different anyway. Wicked and Sky Rocket have very similar layouts, but Wicked flies over the top while Sky Rocket holds you over the edge. They have the same launch vertically up then vertically down, but you can't compare the two because one is Premier while the other is Zierer. Even then, we consider the fact that both of these are basically launched Euro Fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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