kat11joe Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 This was posted on mousetimes.com. http://www.mousetimes.com/nuke/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=88 Looks like Disney may be at fault for the accident. Luckily nobody was hurt badly or killed.
Jew Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 I was under the impression that things HAVE to be done according to the ASTM standards...hmm....
coaster1 Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 So Disney altered the brakes, but still doesn't explain how the train entered an occupied block unless they also altered the PLC programming for the blocking. Even tho the last block wasn't occupied, the block after wasn't clear, so the block before should of been empty and not allowed until the train clear the next block .. Disney is in hot-water now. But that also means the state inspection was bad as well .. so both Disney and the State could be at fault for this.
Real Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 As you said (and Ive been saying elsewhere) coaster1, Intamin - NOT AT FAULT.
Stitch Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 Well I am sure Disney will pay off the injured with free Mickey Ears hats . I sure am glad people are realizing it wasn't Intamin's fault.
coaster1 Posted August 6, 2005 Posted August 6, 2005 It's rarely the manufacturer's fault, even with failing restraints since the parks are responsible for maintenance on the rides, not sure unless it's a design flaw in the ride .. and there's been some of those.
Real Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 And the only legitamte fault of a manufacturer was the Hydro incident (or is it Hydra at Knotts? Cant remember). Apparently that person was of correct size. The SFNE thing was, imo, totally the parks fault for altering the seat belts AND allowing him to ride.
Stitch Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 I believe the ride you are talking about at Knotts is Perilous Plunge
NitroJoeC Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 Let's not forget whose fault it was for SFNE's crash back in 2002 (I think that was the year)...that would be Intamin. Joe "giving credit where credit is due" C.
Real Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 That (and the SFDL one) are the only instances where Intamin is at fault. However, Intamin had already changed their ways before those incidents. MF was using correct hoses and a better design for their retracting brakes. Sucks that this wasnt passed along to SF sooner to fix it. Who knows, maybe it was. I really only recall the one "crash" but maybe there were two. Yes, Perilous Plunge. How could I forget that name?!
pvcoasterguy Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 Question: Does California Screamin' have the magnetic brakes or just the regular old Schwarzkopf-style pinch brakes? I'm very intrested to read the report (when it comes out) about this accident. Anyways, this was in the article: Doughty said Disney considers itself to be the overall manufacturer of its attractions, starting with design work conducted by Disney engineers. Disney views Intamin AG as a subcontractor for California Screamin'. I don't see how Intamin could be a subcontractor for that ride. I mean, Intamin designed the entire thing! (Other that the computer system.)
Jeezus Juice Posted August 7, 2005 Posted August 7, 2005 Eh, Stengle probably designed it according to WDI's layout and Intamin brokered it, that one company that does PLC's probably did the PLC. I'm sure Disney did the landscaping and spot welded those suns all over the structure though. Oh, and Screamin has pinchies and LIM boosters. They may even have backup kicker tires, I haven't really looked that closely (or care to). -D
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