NO GAS MAY 15th?

[BiCoastal Kid]

I probably wont pump, but thats just because I wont need gas anyway.

[spaceace12]

SEe this is a tuesday. I won't need gas! I will be filling up on Monday.

[DejaVu4Life]

Oh christ why do people have issues with free enterprise? Do I like high gas prices, no, but they have the right to charge what ever they want.

[BarryH]

I'll be pumping gas on the 15th since the lines will be shorter.

[viking86]

and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill up.

 

Exactly what would we be protesting in the U.S. with this one-day boycott--having the lowest gasoline prices in the industrialized world?

 

If the purpose of this is to lower the gas prices I dont really see the point of it.... Filling up my 60 liter gastank on my car here in Norway costs me 100-120 dollars so what people is complaining about is beyond my understanding.

 

But I definately agree with those saying that the oil companies makes far too much money.........

[Angry_Gumball]

Personally, I'd like to see people try giving up driving for a few days if they really want to make some sort of impact. I'm sure many people will fill up on gas that night before the protest. I'm sure people can find ways to get to work/school without their car...they have bikes, skateboards, and the best transportation of all: their feet.

[Gav]

^Agreed.

 

There are plenty of viable alternatives to using your car, and there are plenty of cars that are fuel efficient. If you choose not to do either of these things then having a high fuel bill is your choice entirely.

 

The thing people need to realise is that oil is a finite resource, and there is a huge demand for it. If it were cheap then people would just be wasteful, supplies would run low (refining capacity would be overwhelmed) and people would miss out. We're talking fuel station lines kilometres long, full of people all jostling to get some fuel.

Therefore prices need to be forced up a bit to curb peoples demand.

 

The US is actually a good example of this principle at work, the US has the lowest fuel prices in the industrialised world, and consequently the US is a lot more wasteful, just look at the popularity of SUVs! There is no incentive to be prudent with fuel usage.

Compare this to Europe where they pay more than double for fuel, and because of this people drive smaller more fuel efficent models (A nice thing I have noticed about European cars is that they dont just make their fuel miser models basic, they actually have a variety well featured and comfortable cars that are efficient....something the US auto industry could learn from)

 

If people want to see lower fuel prices in the long term, a one day delay in using fuel will do nothing. Everybody would need to reduce their own fuel usage by some means, this would reduce strain on oil resources and prices would fall because of this lower demand.

The fact is oil companies are in it for the profit, they will charge as much as people are willing to pay, and consumers having a little hissy fit wont change anything because they companies know that they will still buy fuel regardless.

Now, if for example a large percentage of the population went cold turkey from fuel usage for an extended period, that could force their hand.

[I love DW]

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You know what I find funny? Is theme park enthusiast saying people should take public transportation or should walk instead of drive. HELLO theme park enthusiast use a ton of gas. So really unless you have a ton of theme parks really close to you none of you (and I'm not just pointing out a few) can complain about people buying suv's or anything else. Some that buy suv's will actually spend less then some enthusiast because they don't drive hundreds and hundreds (some thousands) of miles a year to theme parks. If you (if any one here is) are concerned about sticking it to the gas company maybe you shouldn't go to theme parks think about how much gas you wouldn't have to buy and think all that money the gas company wouldn't get then. Maybe examine your own driving habits before complaining about others driving habits.

 

My family will still be going to theme parks. We are going to save where ever we can any where else (ex. turning unused lights off, etc.) But if others don't want to change or don't change who cares it is there money there spending not yours. But don't say some should walk or use public transportation when you probably use more gas than anyone on that bus.

 

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[Angry_Gumball]

^I'm not talking about wiping out themepark/family trips.. What I'm referring to is the fact that we really don't need to take a car to get to the local mall, starbucks, or whatever...but people do because they feel the need to take the car everywhere they go. Cars for everyday use for getting to local places isn't really all that necessary and believe it or not, it's the city driving that sucks up more fuel than your freeway drive to your Six Flags park mainly because of stop and go traffic. Each time you stop, you suck up a sudden small amount of fuel, which adds up...so you're at a stop sign with 8 cars ahead....that's 8 times of stopping and sucking up fuel. That's just my 2 cent's worth.

[BiCoastal Kid]

Oh christ why do people have issues with free enterprise? Do I like high gas prices, no, but they have the right to charge what ever they want.

 

 

The problem with this statement is that free enterprise values like this don't work on the same capitalistic models as other business since oil is basically a "need" so they CAN charge as much as they want, and all of them do. There's very little competition over actually selling oil/gas since people will buy it regardless.

[BiCoastal Kid]

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You know what I find funny? Is theme park enthusiast saying people should take public transportation or should walk instead of drive. HELLO theme park enthusiast use a ton of gas. So really unless you have a ton of theme parks really close to you none of you (and I'm not just pointing out a few) can complain about people buying suv's or anything else. Some that buy suv's will actually spend less then some enthusiast because they don't drive hundreds and hundreds (some thousands) of miles a year to theme parks. If you (if any one here is) are concerned about sticking it to the gas company maybe you shouldn't go to theme parks think about how much gas you wouldn't have to buy and think all that money the gas company wouldn't get then. Maybe examine your own driving habits before complaining about others driving habits.

 

My family will still be going to theme parks. We are going to save where ever we can any where else (ex. turning unused lights off, etc.) But if others don't want to change or don't change who cares it is there money there spending not yours. But don't say some should walk or use public transportation when you probably use more gas than anyone on that bus.

 

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OKAY honestly, its not like taking a couple hundred mile trip increases your usage that much. Unless you go on a 200+ mile trip every week, the amount of gas used during said trips will still amount to such a small fraction of your overall usage. Really, why don;t you just reserve your driving JUST for long trips and not all of your errands?

[I love DW]

^^Actually a "need" is clothing, food, and shelter. Everything else is classified as a "want." So the statement is true.

[snuggles]

^^^Well, a gas guzzling chunk of scrap metal makes more of a difference than some enthusiast driving a car somewhere. Travel is acceptable, but driving down the street 1 mile or so just to get a drink or something, or sitting in a parking lot with your engine idling for long periods of time isn't. People need to start turning off their cars while they wait for someone, and stop making useless trips.

[BiCoastal Kid]

^^Actually a "need" is clothing, food, and shelter. Everything else is classified as a "want." So the statement is true.

 

Actually there's a good reason for me to put "need" in quotation marks, so if you'd like to reread my post with proper context, please feel free.

[I love DW]

^^^Well, a gas guzzling chunk of scrap metal makes more of a difference than some enthusiast driving a car somewhere. Travel is acceptable, but driving down the street 1 mile or so just to get a drink or something, or sitting in a parking lot with your engine idling for long periods of time isn't. People need to start turning off their cars while they wait for someone, and stop making useless trips.

 

Very true. I have turned my car off in traffic before. Because face it if you have sat on a interstate for five minutes and you know your not going anywhere anytime soon go ahead and turn it off. My family has cut down on trips and we really don't make any useless trips other than if you count theme parks.

[BiCoastal Kid]

So you went on that rant because you were angry at your trip-related consumption, I take it?

[YoshiFan]

The problem I have with the high gas prices is not so much the increase in the price of gas but the effects it has on other items. Costs of merchandise for stores increase due to higher delivery costs which hurts everything.

 

As for the boycott, I won't be filling up on the 15th because I just filled up tonight across from Dorney. $0.25 less a gallon ($2.79) compared to the gas stations in my area and it's in the same state.

[I love DW]

So you went on that rant because you were angry at your trip-related consumption, I take it?

 

No what I was stating is unless you do it don't complain about others. I'm not saying others should walk or use public transportation. I'm saying people who drive hundreds of miles on trips shouldn't tell other who drive one mile to work to walk instead to save money or gas. And I'm not angry at my trip-related consumption because I know I use that much gas and I'm still going to use that much gas but I'm not telling others they should walk to work instead of drive when I'm driving hundreds of unneeded miles that would be a little hypocritical of me to drive to theme parks while telling other to walk to work.

[Gav]

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But don't say some should walk or use public transportation when you probably use more gas than anyone on that bus.

But using a bus is still cheaper (often if you use the route planner on transport authority websites it will give you a drive versus ride comparison, and ride almost always comes out cheaper)

And while a bus would use more fuel, when you divide it by the number of passengers it works out being less fuel used per person than a car.

[I love DW]

And while a bus would use more fuel, when you divide it by the number of passengers it works out being less fuel used per person than a car.

 

Exactly my point. Don't tell people that they should ride a bus when your one trip that isn't necessary takes more gas than that bus.

[swampfox]

Also, some of you forget that some people here live in very rural areas, 30 minutes or more from cities. I used to. You HAVE to go by car in those situations.

 

No matter what side you're on here, ya just seem to want to bitch and moan. Either because you feel cheated or because you want to feel better than everyone else it seems.

 

(This statement is not directed at any one person)

[Gav]

True about rural areas...I live in a rural area(Town only has 35,000 people) but then it comes back to possibly having a more fuel efficent car, I don't think an SUV is really necessary even in places like this since all the main and town roads are ashphalt anyway, and even people I know who live on farms only accessible by dirt roads still dont have SUVs since a regular car is fine for the short part of the journey on a dirt road.

And we do have a town bus service with 6 or so routes, plus cycleways so the options are there.

 

I mean, there are always going to be people who dont have a choice but to use their car, but really, the only reason fuel prices are high is because society as a whole is using too much.

But most people live in urban areas, so they have the potential to do the most...

[swampfox]

Well I used to live in a rural county that had no towns at all. The county was long and had only around 6000 people in it. Nearest town, which only had a population of 2500 was 15 minutes away. Nearest big town was 40 minutes. And that's when I was close to Kings Dominion!

 

As for the fuel efficient cars, take my car for example. Can't afford a new one, and the car I have used to get 330 miles to the tank, and now only gets 240. In the city it gets a little over 100. I live in the city. My city is all urban sprawl, so I can't ride bikes or walk. No pedestrian crosswalks except on campus and downtown, where all the expensive stores are. People get hit by cars walking in my city quite often. It's not safe. Bikes are used heavily in my city, but bike theft is rampant. Most who use bikes only use them close to campus, due to the crosswalks there. It doesn't work for all of us, see?

 

This is why I'm moving to a better place after school.

[BiCoastal Kid]

So you went on that rant because you were angry at your trip-related consumption, I take it?

 

No what I was stating is unless you do it don't complain about others. I'm not saying others should walk or use public transportation. I'm saying people who drive hundreds of miles on trips shouldn't tell other who drive one mile to work to walk instead to save money or gas. And I'm not angry at my trip-related consumption because I know I use that much gas and I'm still going to use that much gas but I'm not telling others they should walk to work instead of drive when I'm driving hundreds of unneeded miles that would be a little hypocritical of me to drive to theme parks while telling other to walk to work.

 

 

I think there's a rather large difference between the two, honestly. Driving a mile to work is just laziness. Doing so when there's public transportation is even worse.

[woah_killa]

Where I live there's no public transportation, and if I wanted to walk to school I'd have to wake up around 3:30 in the morning.