Man shot at Universal Orlando's parking lot

[Robgraves]

maybe not "racial" profiling.... but profiling of some sorts may be in order....

 

but dispite people using it as an excuse... they are less inhibited to doing somthing stupid with alcohol in them.

 

AND this is not a case of "a couple beers"

 

if you have been there this year then you know that there are full liquor bars and bar carts selling liquor all over the place. And then also now selling alcohol IN THE LINES! If it was just beer, it might not be so bad. But liquor makes people drunker quicker, and therefore brings out the stupid factor harder. I mean while in line for scarepy we had a girl coming along the line selling jello shots! This is a theme park, not a night club.

[obeygiant]

thank god my mom didn't see this...another reason why not to go to halloween horror nights during peak days!

drunks everywhere and you could get shot...

[ChrisFL]

I don't see why Universal (or ANY park) can't set up a system that promotes responsible drinking.

1. You go a kiosk set up in the park with a valid photo ID.

2. You are printed out a "Drinking Card" with a barcode that allows a maximum of 3 drinks.

3. When you purchase a drink, you must show the photo ID with the drinking card. The card's barcode is then scanned.

4. After three drinks, it will not allow you to buy any more drinks.

 

I know there's loopholes in the system (a friend could buy you a drink etc) but it's much better than the "Drink as much as you want and we'll just act like we don't think it's a problem" mindset.

 

I agree. I think this year's HHN has gotten to the point where some changes need to be made in order for it to continue to be successful. The crowds on off-peak nights have been worse and the scarezones were underwhelming.

 

Plus they were herding people around the park which I dont appreciate.

 

I think next year's event may see some changes.

[jarmor]

This is a theme park, not a night club.

 

This is also an adult oriented event. Who's to say that a theme park cant sell boo's. I dont see a problem w/ it at all. I will put money on it that people will still be as rowdy as they are now at HHN w/o the beer and stuff because the event attracts morons. Even at SCarowinds it was some idiots picking on the scaractors and being stupid but the park wasn't getting everyone liquored up. I vote to keep selling whatever you want Universal. Its not like you dont let people know what type of event they are in for before they get there. If it bothers people that much they should simply leave the trip out of their plans for that year.

 

Jarvis "the boo's dont bother me at all and no I dont drink at the park" Morant!

[Robgraves]

Maybe at least limit it... yes it is an ADULT themed event... but when it comes to alcohol... most "adults" today are not adults.... I mean imagine the guy with the annoying obnoxiouskids at the park in the day time... his kids got it from somewhere....

 

Im all for beer and wine, and maybe an equal amount of liquor availablity as there is during a normal day at universal... not a bar every 25feet and shot girls roaming the park. . and beer carts and bars in the lines... it is just a recipie for disaster... especially considering the thousands of drunks unleashed upon orlando's roads when HHN closes.

[jarmor]

But its not the parks fault if people cant handle their liquor. When will people accept personal responsiblilty. The park is the supplier nothing more nothing less. The park has an optimistic view of people drinking responsibility. In that case I can blame my local ABC if I get really drunk and do something stupid. I can say they didnt limit the amount of liquor I purchased but who's fault will it be? MINES!

[Thrasher]

IMO, USO shouldnt limit the drinking or cut down the number of alcohol sales. This type of activity lets the rowdy few ruin it for the majority that have the sense to just have fun, and walk away from a confrontation.

 

Instead, and I know im going to get hated on for this, USO should make it an 18+ event. This is not a childrens event. This would cut down on the number of families sure, but it would also cut out the number of younger kids (which ive seen tons of this year).

 

The second and more sensible plan, which was stated a few pages back, is that the event should be sold out long before 50,000 people. Its just too many people, especially in the studios.

 

This year, I almost had a confrontation with someone in the RoTM queue line. There was an older guy and his girlfriend I assume, and my friend pushed me and I ran into her, completely by accident. This guy instantly went crazy and was yelling and swinging at me. Luckily his girlfriend held him back and was telling him it was an accident. I wouldnt want to get kicked out of the park from defending myself.

[Robgraves]

But its not the parks fault if people cant handle their liquor. When will people accept personal responsiblilty. The park is the supplier nothing more nothing less. The park has an optimistic view of people drinking responsibility. In that case I can blame my local ABC if I get really drunk and do something stupid. I can say they didnt limit the amount of liquor I purchased but who's fault will it be? MINES!

 

 

True, and I am all for personal responsibility.... I will be one of the first to tell you people shouldnt blame others for their actions.

 

The question is, when it bears down to personal responsibility, do you want to place YOUR life... in the hands of someone elses personal responsibility. I mean even most bars/clubs i go to have a cut off limit for patrons and or will take the keys of someone too fershinkered to drive safely.

 

My father was killed by a drunk driver in 2001. He had only made a decision to go take his fiancee out to dinner to celebate thier engagement. The man who hit them had no sense of personal responsibility and was loaded up with whiskey. Who's fault was my father's death? He did every thing right that evening, but someone ELSES lack of personal responsibility killed him and his fiancee....

 

There is just too much open availability of alcohol with no way of tracking its consumption at UO durning HHN. Why should it have more bars open than in the daytime? I mean i didn't trust in the personal responsibility of the guy behind me in line to not try to pick fights cause he was wasted. I go to HHN to have fun, and i am responsible. I myself only imbibe alcohol on rare occasions, but i have no problem with others drinking responsibly. The problem comes when you set up a situation that encourages irresponsible behaviour, in an irresponsible society.... then it runs the risk of endangering my safety or ruining my fun. I go to HHN to get a spook from something fun and "scary" not to have to wonder if some as*hat is gonna swing at me cause he's wasted and thinks i looked at him too long, or universal overbooked the event and i bump into him on accident due to the crowd.

 

(accordintg to reports, the shooting happened because the victim accidentally bumped into the shooter while they were waling towards the parking garage.)

[jynx242]

I remember when I was a bartender in college - it was against the law (Atlanta) to serve an obviously intoxicated guest.

 

Personally, I don't see why a park needs to see alcohol. Before I get bashed - I am a recovering alcoholic, but still never drank in a park. That was one of the few times that I really did not want to drink - but that is just me. But since alcohol is (and always will be) a reality in some parks, there is some responsibility on behalf of the parks.

 

Encouraging HEAVY drinking should be stopped. Having bars/beer stands open is one thing, but shooter girls in lines and an excessive number of alcholic offerings does promote heavier than normal drinking.

 

Yes people should be responsible for their own actions, but judgement is IMPAIRED when people are drunk. They can (and often times will) be held acountable for their actions after the fact, but sometimes that is too late.

 

Sure, people should be allowed to drink at an event like this - but they should not be encouraged to get plastered.

 

This is just my opinion, and as such can be taken or left.

 

david

[munkyknum]

I have an idea for next years HHN theme:

 

Halloween Horror Nights 17: We're Not Leaving 'til We're Heaving