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I'm sorry, but WTF. How many times have you told people off for rating or judging coasters they haven't ridden? Yet here you are doing exactly that. You have not ridden Prowler. You clearly have been paying very selective attention and are extremely biased against it if you are still unwilling to consider that maybe it might be worth something. Listen, I'm sorry you think I'm such an idiot, I'm sorry that I'm happy because a completely deserving coaster did way better than I thought it would, and I'm sorry that I'm going to get screamed at for saying this, but your comment comes off as pretty snarky and a little mean. No offense meant in any of this, of course.

#6! Hooray for the Prowler love!

I've been saying it since June, my friend. One mixed-bag review (read: almost completely positive) and now the consensus is that it's mediocre. Well, here we are and it's in the top ten. Maybe we'll get some more believers now. That said, I'm excited to see so many mainland European coasters on the list this year! Yay!

First drop and raven turn were out of this freaking world incredible. The rest of the ride was just okay in comparison. I've only ridden it once, though, and only as X2, so I'm not exactly the best source.

Hahaha - it's a completely new ride except that it is exactly the same ride. The whole article treats it like the coaster is being removed. That was funny.

Good stuff. Germany is such a fantastic country and Munich is probably my favorite big city in the world. I spent a couple days near Marienplatz in March with a school group. Fun to see pictures of that stuff. Looking forward to Europa Park. Btw, "und" is spelled with a d, not a t, lol (looking at the title of the thread).

All of my video is from a digital camera. Sorry! Hope you can find some good footage.

-The slowest wait is Avatar. Even then, though, it won't take you more than a couple hours. -Not at all. That's one of the reasons I like it so much. It's a fantastic flume and you don't get drenched. -I actually really don't like the mall. It's massive and loud and crowded all the time. So is the park, but roller coasters make a difference there. At MOA, make sure you also check out Tak Attack and Jimmy Neutron's Atomic Collider (formerly Mighty Axe and Treetop Tumbler, respectively - I can't stand the new names). Screaming Yellow Eagle is also a pretty good ride, and one of the last of a dying breed. Don't know what the new name is. Danny Phantom something. Anyway. Fun stuff.

OMG I did not want to get into this again. PROWLER IS NOT A FAMILY-RATED COASTER. I cannot understand why that is so difficult to comprehend. EDIT: I should be clearer. You have not ridden Prowler. You have no basis for that statement. You are in no position to judge. Families can ride Prowler together, yes, just like every other GCI and almost all wooden coasters period (even including Voyage). That does not mean that it is mild or in any way less intense than any other coaster. Prowler, once it's warmed up, is easily among the most exciting and fast-paced coasters I have ever ridden, wood or steel, and at night, that excitement only increases. I am NOT a fanboy, I am NOT an idiot, and I DO know what I'm talking about comparing Prowler to Voyage. Don't want to attack you. You aren't stupid. But you are giving this ride a reputation that is not really true.

^^I'm talking about Prowler and EK, not Mamba and Freeze. I can see how you would enjoy Mamba more. It isn't far behind Freeze for me. Ryerson has a good point - night rides on Prowler are very, very comparable to night rides on Voyage, if a little shorter and smoother.

I don't think Evel is anywhere near Prowler. Two totally different levels of ride. Evel is a great ride, but it just doesn't come close.

I don't really think it's fair to compare River King to Wacky Worm, do you? I mean, really. If you had ridden Prowler again at night, it would have shot up even more. The ride gets better and better and better as the day goes on, and it is absolutely relentless at night. As far as I'm concerned, the ultra-long queues at SFSL are enough to put it behind WoF, but I think the collection of rides is better as well (at WoF). That's just me, though. Actually, I would put Freeze ahead of Mamba. I like how SFKK doesn't even factor in to the comparisons. SFSL is a nice SF park. And WoF is certainly an entertaining way to spend the afternoon. But SDC trumps them both by a lot.

Okay, you know what? This is absolutely ridiculous and completely disrespectful. My post used reasonable logic and made perfect sense. There is no reason to be so blatantly rude. I know it isn't a big deal, but it is so offensive to see an attitude like that directed at an undeserving post.

Half the voting population is from Ohio. That may have played into Prowler beating Manta (maybe...), but honestly, most of the voters probably go to KI multiple times a year. Or maybe, just maybe, it could be because Prowler is a good ride. But how dare I suggest such an outrageous possibility? Sorry, I don't want to start that again, but please, I don't think it's that big a stretch.

Go to Timbers, then take the train back to Grand Rapids and work your way around and eventually back to Timbers. Even if you get there late and its super crowded you won't have trouble getting on all the rides and getting pretty bored.

Sorry to quote an older post, but I'm new to the thread. If I were to choose a Midwest park to represent SF, I would go with Great America. In fact, if you made that change, you would have a complete list of what most enthusiasts consider the heart of Six Flags. SFSL is not a bad park by Six Flags standards (i.e. it is a lot better than KK), but I wouldn't put it in the same league as GAm or the others, keeping in mind that I haven't been to Great Adventure or Over Georgia. That said, I don't think this is a bad idea. I don't know how easy it would be for SF to let go of parks like Fiesta Texas, New England, and St. Louis, though. KK, America, and NO should all be sold to groups that care more. I would love to see what could be done with KK if it got some attention and NO just needs somebody to get it back on its feet. As for the other parks - and this is such an unlikely idea that I feel stupid even mentioning it - I really would like to see them (SL, NE, FT, and maybe DK) splitting off from SF and forming their own small chain. That would give this chain basically the same coverage of the US that the big five do: SL for the Midwest, NE for the East, FT for the South, and DK for the West. But I'm dreaming if I think that's even a tiny bit possible. But the first thing SF needs to do is stop it with the stupid lockers. I'm sick of paying for individual rides at pay-for-admission parks

I don't mind the musical. The opening is a really awesome song. I mean a live action movie a la Scooby Doo and Garfield.

What do you mean "again?" Sure, there has been some double-naming among CF parks. Thunderhawk is obviously the most notable (it is the name of exactly two coasters and a number of flat rides) and the -hawk suffix in general, which I actually think is brilliant and I do not see the reasoning behind the constant complaining. Dominator and Steel Venom have also both been used more than once. Apart from those and the Paramount renames (but these hardly count since they were the same name to begin with), there isn't really much to speak of. Compare that to Six Flags. There are currently eight different coasters themed to Batman at Six Flags parks, seven of which are Batman The Ride clones (such a ubiquitous name that the model itself is even called Batman). Plus the Dark Night mice. There are also eight Supermen, not including RoS at Darian Lake. And that's not to mention all of the flat rides themed to Batman and Superman. I could see these particular themes dodging this bullet because of the areas that are themed entirely to these specific characters. But it doesn't stop there. We've also got Medusa, Bizarro, Goliath, Viper, and Tony Hawk's Big Spin. And then some. I'm not saying it's really cool that CF uses names more than once. I think they could stand to be a little more creative. But it's not as though it's a new thing, and CF is certainly not the ideal chain to harp on for overusing names.

You know, what this really comes down to is people who grew up or have a lot of experience with Cedar Fair and The Park Formerly Known as Camp Snoopy (me) arguing with people who grew up or have a lot of experience with the ex-Paramounts. Neither side is right or wrong. It's just a matter of what we're used to being changed. Believe me, I was pretty steamed when Snoopy left MoA and even more unhappy when Nick took over.

You make very good points. I agree. However, if Peanuts ever goes live action, I might shoot myself.

What is the possibility of a Ball Coaster or ZacSpin? Those take up a much smaller footprint, so construction wouldn't have to begin as early, would it?

Premier is the only other company I can think of. Or Vekoma, I guess.

Disaster Transport? I don't know, was there something else? EDIT: Oh, Cedar FAIR, not Cedar POINT. I don't know then.

I would be kind of surprised if they didn't have lights throughout the entire ride, actually, considering its theme. Dominator is looking mighty fine. I have to say, I preferred the lake to the parking lot, but it's still a beautiful ride.

I agree that Screamin' Eagle is not nearly as bad as Ninja. Screamin Eagle isn't particularly forceful, but I wouldn't call it painful. I think that Boss isn't that bad, even in the back. Other than the helix, it's pretty enjoyable and intense. This is a nicer park than it gets credit for being, I think. It's no Great America, but it's a nice place to spend some time.