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I am sure everyone is aware that "announcement season" is upon us. This would be great if DL were to be getting a new coaster next year, which we all understand is highly unlikely, but they will most likely add something. Keep an eye out for the town of darien and genesse county planning board meetings and agendas as any attraction will need approval.

So apparently Premier is starting to buy more parks as opposed to just managing them. Could this be a sign that they may purchase DL? If so, could the loot this waterpark for DL and other properties attractions?

I agree that re-routing the que for viper would be a luxury. It is definitely not needed and money could be spent elsewhere. I do think the best thing would be to paint the entire station and possibly even rebuild the entire structure. I find it very interesting how much the park has invested in painting buildings in the last few years, and left Vipers station off the list. I would support a hybrid que for viper following the red line, but not removing the old que so if it does get busy, they could easily extend the line as needed. Also, that old mini golf needs to go. If the use the old ranger que house, they could add a nice ride in there with more than enough que space. I think a true drop tower in there as the ride could not have a huge footprint.

I agree with the thoughts on the red coverd bridge. If it is structuraly not sound, then tear it down or rebuild it. If it is structurally sound, I would love to see it used as part of the que for motocoaster. One of my biggest pet peeves at the park is the fact that motocoaster is a great in between type of coaster and the que area is not easy to find. I think if they made the entrance easier to find, ridership would increase.

What is the DL sharp sculpture and where is it in the park?

I will say that if the park is truly trying to feurb twister, there is nothing wrong with that. I think a full refurb is a step in the right direction. It may also say that next year's attraction may go back in that area, and they want twister working as an additional draw.

I have never visited that site before, but after a quick paruse, I would not put much into what they are saying for 2017. That old stand up coaster will not ever be built at DL or any park for that matter. It was not taken down properly, so putting it back up is now impossible.

Yes Maria's Spaghett House is still there

Dark maxim, I understand that CNL is an investment firm that owns the park and has Premier manage it for them, but doesn't CNL still control the cash flow Premier recieves to operate the park with? This is where I believe the problems are at. CNL has allocated funds for the park, just not enough for when things like this come up. I think they started painting ME last year near the end of the season as they had some leftover money in the budget, and then ran out of cash. Now it looks silly with painted supports and old and faded track. A true owner who operates and manages the park would fork over the money for the entire job to be done right. Same would go for some of the other issues the park is facing right now.

It's early july and the park sounds like it is having major ride reliability issues. Either CNL needs to open the checkbook or sell to someone who will make the needed investments and repairs so this does not happen much more. I fear that attendance at the park is dropping quickly And that is never a good thing

My bet would be that if they were planning on having second trains on any coasters, the target date woud be for kingdom bound week. That tends to be the park is most crowded.

I went to the park this evening and wanted to post a few things. First off, we did not go until 4 pm and left by 7 pm. Second, we went with my son, who is 6 and is not tall enough to rideany of the coasters. Here is a few things I did notice though. I did not see ROS running at all this evening. All coasters were running just one train, except ROS which Idid not see run at all. Just about every flat other than blast offwas a walk on. Twister has just about every one of its restraints off it now. Grizzly run was not operating.The park looks like it could really use some landscaping work. Lot of weeds, sone 2-3 feet high. Now onto the juicy part. There seemed to be an executive at the park. When i took my sonon the antique cars, there was two people on the closed bridge pointing towards twister and the open area to the left of it. Later, I also saw them over by moose on the loose.The dl guy was definitely Chris Thorpe. The other guy hadanotepad and a beard. He was clearly writing things down. Not surewhat they were doing, but I would keep any eye out towards the area between twister and darien square for possible future development of a flat ride.

HFE wanted to buy DL, but wanted only DL and at the time CNL wanted to package all the parks. Seeing that they sold Elitch last year on its own, there may still be hope. My personal hope is for HFE to buy and invest in the par. They know what the park needs, and have the money to make the needed upgrades and additions.

The biggest problem is that CNL alwyas looks at the bottom line and want to turn a profit. Plus, I am ure they are payingmPremier to manage the park. If they sold the park to a company like HFE, they would invest into the park in order to bring things up to where they need to be. CNL would never do this for fear of losing money

I agree with coasterkid. I woulc be very happy if next years budget was spent on paint on ROS and ME along with new trains on all costers except viper. A flat to replace twister would be great, but not necessary if the others could get taken care of. Also, most things on Screamscape are pure speculation. They are much better than years ago, but most things are from people who email Lance with something that sounds relatively credible. I am sure that DL would not be fully closing down the path towards ME for construction at this point of the year. I do think that area of the park is in need of something else to draw crowds. Also, if that really was posted to screamscape, it has since been taken down...

Will someone please go and confirm this with one of the dippin dots workers on their next visit? We all know the workers with the inside informationn aare at the dippin dots stands...

I am going to be an optomist on this and say the lift is there to repair twister. Maybe they got some extra cash or got parts cheap, and the lift is actually there to make the nedded repairs so the ride can run this year. It defintely is a good ride when running properly, and I really like the waterfall in front of it. For a small park that doesnt have much of those types of things, it is a rather pretty area. If they have to remove it, please put something good in that spot as the traffic isnt great and would need something to draw crowds off the beaten path

That is a hard question to answer, but my best guess would be weekends and then weekdays in about two weeks once all schools are oit for the summer. I am actually rather surprised if the crowds were big this past weekend, twey did not put the second trains on in the middle of the day to cut lines down.

My understanding is that Viper and Predator can both run two trains currently. Motocoaster, ROS and ME cannot, unless something happened. Also, if you look back in this thread, the talk is ROS definitely will and Motocoaster possibly may get second trains next year.

I do think the free spins are a good option for the park. The other two options I would expect would be a Eurofighter or one of those new Premier coasters like Tempesto at BGW. They are all pre designed and would cost less due to the fact that they would not need to be specially fabricated.

Samuel, how can you not know what Premierlikes to add to the parks they manage? History shows cooke cutter coasters like SLC's and Boomerangs. Then they like water rides, and lasty thrill rides. Also they tend to reuse names and rides alot. If you look at what Frontier City added this year, that could be our addition next year. They have been doing it that way since the mid 90's

I am pretty sure CNL gives the budget to Premier for upgrades. With that in mind, CNL will not hand over the cash for a new good coaster for a while, so unless the park is sold, expect a flat and if all goes right something in the waterpark. Premier likes water park additions as they appeal to many. Also, I too would love to see a frisbee at the park, but DL does not have the attendance required for the giant version by Huss. I would expect either the Mondial or Zamperla models instead due to size and capacity that DL would require

First let me say that wild rumours are not accepted on this thread! Second, it would not shock me to see DL get a new coaster next year. Remember that Premier now operates the park, and their history has been to add coasters and water rides. On top of that, the park obviosuly has open space for a new coaster in the "nameless" area. My only problem is that I would not expect a B&M as much as I could see a Gerstauler Eurofighter style coaster. Needless to say that t is way too early for track to show up. Also, could they be testing new color schemes on the old Batman track and supports? That would explain B&M track...

^I was under the impression that the second trains on both ME and Motocoaster were poached for parts, and the park would just about have to buy new trains for both of those much like ROS. ME ridership is low, so one train is probably OK there, but motocoaster can have long waits and a second train there could go a long way

That explains alot... Who would have thought DL would actually be putting that monstrosity back up? However, the picture is great! Is anyone going to the park next weekend? Obviously nothing major inside the park, but it might be nice to see if the paint Mind Eraser's track as well as any other minor in park upgrades