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I would expect to see something decent for 2018. Obviously the new owners have incentive to add value, and due to the late deal closing, this year was out of the picture. Next year will tell the story of what DL's future holds. I do however like the fact that the new owners have real amusement industry experience, so they understand what it takes to build a park

The Buffalo News reported on the sale of DL today as well. Apparently the deal finalized this week, so now it's fair to report. They did say that Premier signed a very long term lease like 40 years with the new owners. They did also say that this new owners has more money to invest in the properties that CNL did not

On the predator topic, I say rework it so that it is a classic out and back woodie. Take it all the way to route 77 and remove all,the banked curves. Think Blue Streak, and I bet it would be Fantastic!

I think SF is putting VR on their version of ME this year, hence the new trains. The new trains look comfortable, but I think most of us are waiting to see the actual outcome. My thought is the reason why SLC's are so shaky has to do with poor manufacturing of the trains and track both. Great trains on bad track doesn't work, and great track with a bad train doesn't work either. Imagine a bad train on bad track and you get an SLC

I was just reading on Screamscape that Elitch Gardens is removing their speed slides. Since Premier manages both EG and DL could they buy the slides from EG cheap and move them here? I know the two parks are not owned by the same people, but Premier does have a deal for cheaper rent on DL in exchange for them adding the new attractions. Speed slides are one of the only things our Waterpark lacks

^agreed that those who expect massive coasters at DL from the likes of B&M and such are very out of touch with the park, what they can afford and what their attendance would require. At this point most of the larger coasters we see will be going to the big parks with major attendance. Think CW, CP, the major SF parks, BG, Sea World Carowinds and the two Kings parks. DL most likely will be adding smaller coasters from the secondary manufacturers like Vekoma, Gerstauler, Mack and some of the wooden coaster manufacturers.

Yes following 24 x 7 is a bit much, especially for a park like DL, but I bet someone from the park checks in about once a day or so. Ask Doug M, he was in charge of social media for the park for one year and I am pretty sure that is how we all got to know him

I tend to believe these possible additions. My only hope is that they add a whole row of these game ride things like 5 or 6 sets. I am also holding out hope for another coaster train somewhere Also I do thank DarienLake2684 for this information, please be careful what you share on these forum boards. I have been around to remember one of the old WNY coaster forums moderators got a job at the park and was fired due to something he said in the forums. Darien Lake people definitely view this forum, even if they don't comment. As stated, the information is appreciated, but don't risk your job, especially when things are not public yet.

It would not shock me if it came out that the upgrades for 2017 were new trains for ROS and Motocoaster to get both of them up to full operation. I don't think ME and Predator really require more trains as ridership is low. Also, if they are saving for a bigger 2018 project, I would not object

My hope is that Premier is doing similar things at DL with train rehabs and paint to spruce things up a bit

Yes, and that was SF who did that. With DL we are talking about a company with far less financial resources. Heck you can also site all the hard Rock park coasters going to Vietnam, but again we are talking DL financial backing

It's a great idea, but that coaster will most likely stay in Europe. The costs to ship something that large and that heavy across the ocean would most likely be too costly.

Here is a video that shows them cutting a piece of the loop with a blowtorch. They moved the coaster for two reasons. 1 they had to get it off Astroworld property and second it added value to the park when they sold it https://youtu.be/juHbnS1_Or8

I say buy the one at LaRonde and then piece the together to make one really big coaster. It would be like a huge jigsaw puzzle... Why does this keep coming back up? We all know that this will not happen due to the way it was taken down via torch cuts as opposed to regular unbolting the track pieces like they should have. Now could they buy the one from LaRonde and useven what they have as spare parts, sure, but Why? Stand up coasters are all but going away these days. Oh and BTW, pics or it didn't happen...

I could easily see Premier adding more watersides next year as that portion of the park is extremely busy almost all the time. My only thing is that I hope they do not neglect the dry side of the park as well. I could live with general improvements on the rides if they are at least semi-noticeable. I would like to see lights fixed or added in the case of the giant wheel. Second trains on the coasters that do not have them, and possibly some paint in needed areas.

Well, maybe we will hear something for the February meeting. I also could see no major additions this year with the new ownership. I do think they should have a second train for ROS as well as a full compliment of replacement parts for those trains. To be honest, I would accept a second train for ME, ROS and Motocoaster as good additions for 2017. At least it would be a step in the direction of two train operations on all major coasters.

I would think this agreement would allow the park to still plan for 2017 and beyond though

So I was taking a look at the Genesee County planning board meeting schedule and it looks like they have their meetings on the second Thursday of each month. With this in mind most likely January 12th or februnary 9th may be our magic dates for DL to go in for approvals. Keep looking around! Also, great retro pictures of Devils hole!

I am pretty sure that anything they add is property of the park in general and not Premier. The good news on this is that Premier can decide what to add and also funds it. With this setup, there is no parent giving an allowance like CNL did. If Premier wants to add a coaster, they can, but they also foot the majority if not all of the bill. With this, I would definitely expect something good in 2018!

Yes the one at DL was the original. It was also the first hypercoaster that Intamin designed. This is why you see the difference between what we have and what SFNE has. Look at what other designers first hypers look like and compare to ROS. Now I do hate that one long straight track before the third hill, and am not a fan of the second helix, but it is a very good coaster

Superman: Ride of Steel would like to have a word with you Really, with those two giant helices and that super banked turn after the first drop?

Yes, if you look at that picture, all of those pieces are very straight. No roller coaster would have that many full straight pieces. It is a great thought, but anything that shows up on a satelite image has been at the park for a few years now.

Plus, don't forget that DL is not close to much, so how many people really want to live in a housing development out there? Canada's Wonderland was out and then Toronto eventually encroached on it, hence the need to build houses near the park. Buffalo will probably never expand that much in our lifetimes to make Darien the suburbs. On the land topic, I could see a REIT investing in other things to make the most out of that property they now own. The best option would either be an exansion of the current lodge or a new hotel with an indoor waterpark for year round use or a golf course. I don't see people heading out there for shopping with Walden Galleria within a short drive for a good portion of WNY.

If you really look at it, DL has never "teased" about any new attractions. The closest thing was the two season pass newsletters with the lake monster and frisbee ride options. Other than that, I cannot think of any other teases for new attractions. To be honest, it seems like the big parks like CP and some SF parks are the only ones doing this

I am not sure about March, but definitely after the 1st of the year now most likely. Also, the IAAP show just ended, and a good number of parks make their buyin decsion at that show. They can see new rides and buy on the spot. Sometimes these are new rides, or just something they want to sell a bunch of. My guess is they bought something there, now need to get it approved from the gensee county board. Keep an eye out for DL to be on their agenda