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Viper's day will come eventually. I am just enjoying it as much as I can while it is still here. Same goes for Ninja! That day will be sad, but I am all about parks evolving and replacing old busted coasters with new ones to last another 30+ years or more. That's the circle of life! I'm not sure if Vortex being removed is any "hint" that Arrows are reaching the end of their lives. Viper was built 3 years after Vortex, but is also a taller/faster/longer/more intense coaster, so who really knows. Many Arrows from the '70s are still operating, whereas others barely lived long enough to see a decade or two of operation like Shockwave at SFGAm, Steel Phantom, and GASM at SFGAdv.

It is also interesting to note the timing of this removal. Assuming the ride doesn’t sit and rot, they will be removing this coaster while simultaneously constructing their largest coaster yet. I know it’s crazy to talk about what may replace Vortex while an awesome B&M Giga is currently being built, but I would love to see it replaced with a new-generation looper a few years down the road. It would be great to see Cedar Fair work with Vekoma on a crazy new looping coaster like Lech Coaster.

I was definitely not expecting this at all. I never particularly liked the ride, but I know it has a place in history and many coaster fans enjoyed it. RIP. Cedar Fair is really dishing out these ride removals pretty easily. Stinger, Boomerang, Volcano, Firehawk, and Vortex all in the last 3 years.

It looks like Twisted Timbers will be open for WinterFest! https://www.kingsdominion.com/play/winterfest/attractions

It is nice to see Lagoon finally addressing the new ride. I am not surprised to hear it won't open for a few more years. We all know how many years Cannibal was in development. Also, Julie runs the Lagoon Instagram page and keeps it very active with lots of interesting stuff constantly. She has done a great job with it and I really suggest following. Now that they have acknowledged the new coaster, maybe small updates will be posted here and there in the coming months (and years).

Except that Riddler is actually a GREAT ride unlike both Green Lantern coasters!

^What he said. And also, the Log Ride and Rapids run year-round unless they are going under annual maintenance. Calico River Rapids just re-opened in May and the Log Ride typically goes down in February/March, so you should be just fine riding everything in November.

I didn't expect them to open any of the B&Ms, but I am a little surprised they didn't even open a single roller coaster like Silver Streak, Thunder Run, or Guardian.

I wonder how much longer Holiday World is going to pour money into maintaining Voyage season after season before developing a long-term solution like topper track or even prefabricated wood. It would still keep the classic wooden coaster feel while significantly cutting maintenance costs (I assume). And like Canobie Coaster said, the old-to-new track would flow seamlessly and would only be necessary on the most intense parts of the ride. Another example is Roller Coaster at Lagoon. Obviously that ride is no where near as tall, fast, or intense as Voyage, but there are a few spots on that coaster with topper track (or something very similar) and it works wonderfully.

I'm sure they could handle that giant helix just like they handled the ones on Rattler and White Cyclone. I still think RMC-ing American Eagle is unlikely, but RMC has proven by now that they can work with literally any wooden coaster layout. Classic cyclone layout? Done. Re-work a GCI? Done. Large woodies with helices and super boring straight sections? Done. A coaster that literally only turned right? Done. Dueling coaster? Done.

There is no mid-course break run on Fury. I am confused how we are comparing Orion to Fury "up until the MCBR." Fury is non-stop from the lift to the final brakes!

^I completely agree. I would argue that Fahrenheit (and even Storm Runner) are the most underrated coasters I have ever ridden. I would also say Dare Devil Dive is a candidate. I was expecting a ho-hum ride but it was incredibly smooth, very forceful, and the restraints are fantastic.

My next park will be Lagoon on either the 12th or 26th of October (not sure which day yet). After that I will be visiting Knott's and SFMM during Thanksgiving weekend.

And like I said, just because it isn't summer doesn't mean it's not peak season anymore. Magic Mountain gets slammed during Fright Fest and HITP. They reached capacity on December 30th last year, and they almost never reach capacity during the summer. When it comes to opening new rides at year-round parks, you have to shift your mindset a little bit. If this park was open through Halloween and would barely open their new ride by then, I totally get that. But you can visit this park any day of the year, so who cares if their new coaster opens in November? Silver Bullet and GhostRider both opened in December, for what it's worth.

Glad to hear Apocalypse is running well. It has a great layout and is tons of fun when it doesn't beat you up.

Magic Mountain is open 365-days a year. I don't think opening a brand new coaster in the peak of summer is really necessary when they get just as crowded (if not even MORE crowded) during Fright Fest and Holiday in the Park. While of course I would have liked it to open this summer, it's kind of exciting to have something brand new to look forward to riding once my semester is over! Holiday in the Park is my favorite time to visit, and a brand new coaster will make it even better. But that's just me.

Maybe I haven't kept up enough, but is there a pathway to get to Apocalypse with all the WCR construction? Are there even restrooms or services back there yet?

I find it funny that both SFSTL and WOF both have A GCI, A Spinning coaster, a Boomerang and and a B&M invert in a somewhat competing market Worlds of Fun and Six Flags St. Louis do seem strikingly similar in terms of “class.” I haven’t been to either park, so I won’t comment on the quality of experience at either, but speaking strictly in terms of ride lineup and their rank in their respective chains, they share many similarities. But on the topic of CGA, that’s what would be so great about them getting a B&M Hyper one day. It would be the biggest coaster in the area (because NorCal is essentially a separate state than SoCal) and would be highly visible among the very populated area. If they can eventually cut through the red tape on noise and space issues, I feel like it would be a MASSIVE hit for the park.

I find it interesting too. That same could be said for La Revolucion at Knott's. Even on dead days, that ride still has a 2-3 cycle wait. People love them.

^This. Plus, given how much love Cedar Fair has given this park in the last 5 years, I have no doubt Carowinds will continue to greatly expand in the future. Anybody who lives near this park should be thrilled.

Bring on the Intamin! This is still the best-looking 2020 coaster in my opinion. Or at least this and RMC Gwazi.

^I agree the trims can sometimes hit a little hard, but I have never had an issue with Cannibal's length personally. Glad to hear you liked the park. I honestly like some of their flat rides more than many of the coasters. Rock-O-Plane, Centennial Screamer, Samurai, and Air Race are all tons of fun.

Bump. I was thinking about this thread, so I figure I would update mine. 2011: Green Lantern: First Flight 2012: Manta (SWSD) 2013: Coast Rider, Full Throttle 2014: Banshee 2015: Twisted Colossus 2016: Joker (SFGAdv), retracked GhostRider 2017: Mystic Timbers 2018: HangTime, Electric Eel, Railblazer 2019: Copperhead Strike, Firebird at SFA (if you count that), and West Coast Racers if it opens in 2019 lol As for 2020 rides, I think the only guaranteed one is Mako at SWSD. I want to get back to Ohio and ride Orion, but that's just a dream at this point.

Could someone please explain how they get these results? Who votes? Year after year I laugh at the results, but I've never really understood how the whole process works that makes it so biased and laughable?

I know I posted last year, but 1999 was such an iconic year for roller coasters that it is pretty much impossible to come up with just three. The Top 3 from 1999 that I've Ridden: 1. Afterburn 2. Joker's Jinx 3. Georgia Scorcher Bizarro is also an honorable mention. The Top 3 from 1999 that I Haven't Ridden but *Seem* the Best: 1. Dueling Dragons 2. Incredible Hulk 3. Apollo's Chariot Not to mention Raging Bull, Roar, Gwazi, Tennessee Tornado, Invertigo, Two Face, Poltergeist, Ride of Steel, and the list goes on... Obviously I was far too young to care, but how did you guys even process the amount of coasters added in 1999 and 2000? Looking through the list on RCDB, I can't believe that many coasters were added in North America alone with some parks receiving multiple coasters. It's fascinating.