BlueFireCoaster

I think we all know that answer.

My guess is 2 reasons: 1) The tower from top to bottom is not a perfect square. I don't know if they did this for visuals to make the tower look taller when you're looking up at it, or to save money on the structure, but the bottom of the tower has a vastly larger footprint than the top, you can see what I mean in the picture below. Providing a drop tower on the back would mean some pretty hefty additions to the back of the tower, extending supports much further out than what they're planning to do on the sides (in the LA Times image you can see the new supports which will support the drop towers track). 2) The back of the tower has an odd angle where the top of the tower meets the bottom (where the arrow is in the picture below). Again, providing track to run along the back would have probably made some complications and increased the price of the installation. Although as we see, something like this is possible, and it would have helped tremendously with capacity. All in all, this looks to be a pretty cheap project considering all they'll have to do is add track to the sides, with some modified supports off the Superman tower, 2 drop cars and a drop mechanism and there you go. When you don't have to pay for a tower to provide the height for the drop, I'd assume this investment is not more than $5 Million.

^^^Will probably have to wait until 2013. Terminator replaced Psyclone a couple years after its demolition. ^^Wait...was there something that you saw which everyone overlooked???? The sound you hear are the lateral wheels running against the center rail. The sound cannot be muffled. Right, like the park has any ability to organize anything remotely that complicated. They can't even keep wait times posted correctly on the signs in front of the attractions! My guess is yes, at random times you will hear Superman, but really, it's not that bad! I am SO glad to see this is going to be an honest drop tower, not a controlled power one like S&S, where the weightlessness is limited. I have been on the Intamin drop tower on Gröna Lund and it was much better. Is this a fair trade off for losing Deja Vu? I would say yes. But I am still going to really miss Deja Vu.

Typically if the park is this quiet so close to the next years announcements, it means not a lot will be happening. If the park was getting a coaster that has been unannounced, we'd typically be hearing some rumors or seeing some track by now. The fact that Magic Mountain has been completely silent kinda leads me to believe a small investment, if any, will be up for next year. Might have to wait for 2013 for a new big coaster.

This my friends, is where Darwinsim comes in. Maybe not today, but eventually... People like this ruin everything for the people who can behave themselves.

From the plans it looks like they aren't going to be changing anything related to the mechanics of the ride. I can't believe MM is losing this awesome ride!!!

I saw this photo a couple days ago and was trying to figure out where this water slide was located. Can anybody help? Looks pretty freakin' high to me!

I think we all did!

^It isn't a problem and it isn't redundant. Sure, it might be said here or there by some of the more loony coaster enthusiasts, but that doesn't necessarily mean the majority of people believe it to be so. IMO, Magic Mountain could get nothing but 3 launched coasters over the course of the next 10 years and it wouldn't be redundant or a problem to me or most of the GP! Don't take too seriously or try to make too much sense out of technicalities that come up on the forums...you'll drive yourself nuts! BTW, Deja Vu is one of my favorite coasters in the park and if anything it will be sadly missed by me. I only hope I can get back to the park to get my parting ride with it. I have memories of it with one of my good friends, which I suppose nobody really thinks about when it comes to roller coasters, but it's amazing the things you remember when you're having fun on awesome rides.

I wonder if more rides (like Scream) will be removed from SFMM.

<-Entertained.

Uh, not really. With a 263-foot change in elevation from its highest peak to the bottom of the pretzel loop, and seeing as how the lift is 170 feet tall, that means to fit the entire ride onto a flat piece of land, the station would have to be almost 100 feet off the ground! Don't know about you, but I've never seen a coaster who's station is 100 feet off the ground!

I am seriously disappointed the ride is being removed. This will be the first coaster "re-location" from Magic Mountain since 1988, and it couldn't a coaster that I liked more. I would rather lose Scream but I bet that's staying because of it's capacity. I don't see how they're going to get this ride to run as well as it does after it's taken apart and relocated, but I'm sure Six Flags won't care about that until it happens. Hope something better than a drop tower replaces it, the capacity will be terrible, and compared to Deja Vu it will be completely lame.

What is GCG? Just something to think about with regard to this rumor...China is building a BRAND NEW Giant Inverted Boomerang from scratch, which means Vekoma is still willing to make and install the ride. What's to say they wouldn't be willing to build a brand new one for Six Flags New England? http://rcdb.com/9564.htm

With Deja Vu at 192 feet tall, I don't see how the height of the rides match up at all. I don't think it's going to be removed.

Take this for what it's worth, but the Wikipedia page on Wild Rivers says there has never been a confirmed death at Wild Rivers, and I know it doesn't make it a fact but they're usually pretty good about that stuff. I used to visit the park a lot and have always heard of the park closing down for years, so I've always been informed about what goes on in the park...I had never heard of a death at the park as well. However I think the ride closed due to its intensity. I used to ride the Edge several times on my visits and it was my favorite waterslide in Southern California. It was awesome because you would be going around the circle for what seemed like forever, then would see the light at the end of the tunnel and wonder when the huge drop was coming. I used to get so much air on the drop just based on the speed I picked up while going down the slide. In fact, my dad who is 6 feet tall, who rode one time was going so fast, clipped his toe on the top of the tube just before he shot down the Edge slide and ended up spraining his toe and busting off the nail. It was bad, and he was taken to the First Aid at the park. I think things like this happened all the time with this ride, which is why they tamed it down to have a final covered drop like the Ledge. Apparently that wasn't a good enough fix and the ride closed soon after. I loved this Water Park and will try to make 1 last visit before it goes to take some photos and remember it for the future. If anyone has any good shots of the Ledge and Edge drops when they first opened and would post them on here to bring back memories that would be awesome. A great park with great slides that I have great memories from and will always miss!

^What is wrong with having a single rider line coming up the exit to fill up the cars? Just as fair as a Flash Pass, IMO.

^I wouldn't come forward and post numbers your friend told you if you don't have a legitimate source to back it up. Either way, that number is ridiculously high.

I have seen other sites report that Windseeker is now testing, meaning spinning and moving up and down the tower! Maybe the opening is not too far off! But they don't have the same sweet Windseeker signs all the other ones have.

This is to keep Goliath as slow as possible throughout the course until it gets to the MCBR. Goliath is one of those coasters that flies through the course faster than it was initially designed (the speed at the bottom of the drop is in fact faster than 85mph), which is why the lift hill has been adjusted to "creep" over the top of the first drop, and now has such hard braking on the Mid Course. It's to slow the ride down, avoid uncomfortable g's for guests, and keep that wear and tear down. All days are different, when the ride is going over the speed it should, it's braked to a standstill. On days when it is moving closer to the speed it was designed, they brake it to a creep, because even then, it's hard for them to avoid going too fast through the second half of the ride. That helix of death when the train is going faster than it should is insane. It's far-fetched to hear that the ride flew through the brake run without so much as a "tap" of the mid courses, whether it's the first ride of the day or not. I mean, there's lots of people that have their stories and they'll stick to them, but really, the ride is not opened and run that way with guests onboard.

^I wouldn't mind joining ya! Then you'd just need 1 more!

Looks promising however I have not seen the ride rotate yet, whether at the base of the tower or higher up. Whats there to complain about? My only complaint about the lighting will be if this Windseeker doesn't get the same sweet sign the other Windseekers have gotten. From Wiki: SE? Do you mean Supreme Scream?

I actually have to say that I like how they did that...what it will essentially do, instead of being over engineered, is it'll feel more like a sweep than one fluid motion, which I think is what really makes some of the better B&M's so intense. Unnatural transitions that are still smooth but forceful. I feel like with some of them they really smooth them out too much, and I think that's what takes away from their feeling of forces. Oh, and the roop! I also like this photo of the roop! It looks like it'll be snappy at the apex, one of my favorite things about B&M inverted loops is the snap at the top that kind of "whips" you over. Thanks for the photos dixie!

It used to be Superman: The Escape at Magic Mountain because I'll never forget the anticipation I had for the ride the first time I heard about it, I saw it get put together on a visit, and the next time I came I got to ride it when it opened! Everybody I ever went on with it thought it wasn't worth the wait, always said "that's it?" but I still thought it was an awesome concept, one that got me into coasters, and one that really never got to be what it was truly designed to do. Luckily, the team at Magic Mountain changed all that this year with the rehab to Superman: Escape from Krypton and now everybody I've been on it with LOVES IT and I agree with them! It's WAY better now and I wouldn't have it back to the old way for anything! If you haven't ridden it and you're in So Cal seriously, go ride it. It's awesome!

DUDE WTF?!?!! WHY COULDN'T KNOTT'S GET AN INVERTED LIKE THIS?!??! This looks like it's going to be the most intense coaster B&M has made since the Batman clones, which is freaking awesome! Look how tall that loop is compared the banked turn, and with how compacted the layout is, it's all going to be one intense blur! Thank you for the updates. This coaster is amazing! *edit* Sorry for the double negative, thanks for catching me Ed Farmer.