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I have a hunch this is the same technology we will be seeing in Shanghai Disneyland's TRON coaster.

In regards to the costs comments, I think its important to realize that Holiday World clearly took a different approach with this ride. This isn't a ride plopped on a flat plot of land then covered with grass on the bottom and a bare-bones station (ala Six Flags and Cedar Fair). I am really glad HW is doing this expansion right and adding a really well themed area that will bring great atmosphere to the park, and differentiate the ride even more. Bravo, Holiday World.

Perhaps my expectations were far too high, but this is exactly what I hoped Full Throttle at SFMM would have been. A massive, multilaunch terrain coaster with an incredible length.

The biggest thing about these Chinese parks is that labor and resources are cheap enough to make the giant buildings and thematic buildings, yet they are never designed well. Sure there is a mountain range, but there is no means to address sight lines or any attempts to really "transport" you to a different time and place. I do think thats a problem with all these "theme parks" across china is that they are trying to imitate a Disney Park rather than Disney who tries to imitate a real location, culture, etc.

Although the Intamin Mega-Lites are fantastic, I never understood what market they were catering for. They are really expensive (cost of coaster and maintenance), too expensive for most small parks and too low capacity for most large parks. I guess Mack took out the high maintenance costs and made a product that is comparable for parks.

I imagine that Orlando and Hollywood's are going to be very similar especially after hearing these details.

Just curious, what was different about the original layout? All I know of was the change to the first corkscrew and the inverted top hat, were there any others? Otherwise, thanks for the updates! In my opinion, this is the best coaster project of 2014. Absolutely blown away by how integrated this ride is into the park. And I'm a huge fan of Mack's latest coasters. Please keep the construction coming! I really appreciate it.

I assume you mean madness as in super crazy cheap?!!? It's a crazy good deal for a big corporate park, especially for two of the best parks on the planet!!! Absolutely! Its incredibly cheap! $65 for a day at DisneySEA compared to $95 for a day at the Magic Kingdom. Americans are getting robbed by this standard.

$65 for a one day adult ticket is madness by domestic standards!

Because that makes sense. Why wait any longer when its ready to go?

That floating mountain range looks pretty darn cool. Really excited about the new additions to DAK and think all of this will make it feel like a more complete park.

I really hope this is more than just a reskinned Star Tours.

OLC was originally formed as the company responsible for reclaiming land in Urayusu. And there was a very loose blue print from YEARS back that has since been diagramed by some Disney fans that shows the orientation of the reclaimed land so that its adjacent to DisneySEA but doesn't impact the view of the ocean. Again, I just don't think its worth throwing around rumors for a 3rd gate because there are no indicators that one is in the works

OLC has said there is a possibility in the future once Disneyland/SEA reach capacity. And if a third gate was built, they've also mentioned that they would reclaim just beyond DisneySEA which I imagine would be incredibly costly. So I don't forsee it happening anytime in the near future, but honestly I can't imagine anything a third gate couldn't offer that couldn't already fit thematically into either Land or SEA

I'm not sure you've ever been on an inverted coaster in your life.

At least The Voyage is still open...

In a vertical direction, correct. However you also have to factor in the initial horizontal speed from any possible pre drop or station conveyer, etc.

Or have anti rollbacks that work.

I tend to like the shaping of ProSlide's creations much more (e.g. ProSlide's TornadoWAVE is much more sculpted than White Water's Boomerango's) but to be honest I can't even tell much of a difference beyond that.

Back during the Blue Sky Cellar's focus on Little Mermaid, there was a concept for an elaborate trackless ride ala Hunny Hunt. A whole building schematic was shown with multiple layouts for each vehicle. There is also some concept art in one of the Imagineering books. Source However, I do believe we got the version we have now due to budget and the park's overwhelming desire to have an omnimover.

A little overly generalized much? It was a pretty unanimous consensus that the 2009 expo presentation and announcements were positives. Disney doesn't even do large-scale announcement events for press. They just do blog posts (see 7 Dwarves, Festival of Fantasy, Soundsational etc.).

The complaint from 2011 was that they scaled back the arena to make it more intimiate and proceeded to announce nothing. The complaints from 2011 was that it felt much more corporate. In 2009, it was very clearly an expo for the die hards, it was positioned after school had started, it was not heavily advertised, and was marketed mostly to Disney fans. They announced a host of new movie projects, and for Parks and Resorts they announced the entire Fantasyland makeover and Star Tours redo. It was clearly for the fans. 2011 was just more of a presentation. The only announcement was a new meet n greet, but otherwise it was just an update. Very lame and extremely disappointing after 2009. Sure booze, hotels, and food are fun but they are for a very select group that usually don't care much for the parks (theme park sites, yes, but main stream media, not so much). The whole point of the 2009 expo was that they didn't just spit out information to main stream media, they gave it to those who really cared. Idealistic? Sure. But I do think this is a major step back for the expo.

This isn't like they are just trying to keep the big announcement secret, they flat out aren't doing a Parks and Resorts Presentation in the 4,000 seat arena. If they had something to share (like in 2009) they would announce to a packed arena of fans. They completely eliminated the entire arena Parks presentation

Your proportions are wayyyyyy off. You can just tell by comparing the building to the paths. The Soarin building is MUCH larger. I don't think the entire harbor would be removed, but the entire side closest to the park is used for staging and would be out of use during that time period.

Latest theory is that the reason Legend of Mythica is closing without a replacement is that the harbor to store all the floats may be removed/relocated to make room for a Soarin' type theater right behind the roman ruins. Soarin has long been rumored to go to DisneySEA and is known to have been considered for this location. Considering OLC doesn't usually cheap out on shows/remove major ones, this seems highly probable.