Bolliger&Mabillard

^Just because there's a ton of people in a park doesn't always mean they're bringing in the big bucks. You have to look at who's coming in, for how long, what they're doing while they're there, etc. Magic Mountain was in the same boat a few years ago. Coaster after coaster kept the turnstiles spining, but they were still loosing money. X, Deja Vu, Goliath, & Riddler's Revenge all had 2+ hour waits, but there was no money coming in. Begin Rant- Sea World San Antonio and Six Flags Fiesta Texas are within minutes of each other. So are Six Flags Discovery Kingdom and Great America. Six Flags Magic Mountain also has it's hands full with Disneyland, Knott's Berry Farm and Universal Studios as local competitors. I can all but guarentee that not a single one of these parks steal any signifigence from the other. Unless SFA was sold to a company that was willing to beef up the park, and invest millions upon millions of dollars to compete with GADV, Six Flags could wash their hands of this park and never have to worry about it again. Cedar Fair will never invest in a park to outshine Cedar Point. Universal or Disney wouldn't take it because the transformation from sub par thrill to fun for all ages would be to great. There aren't any other operators that could compete financially with SFGADv. Sell the damn thing! -End Rant.

Six Flags Kentucky Kingdom to get a "new" hyper coaster in 2010! Six Flags Over Texas Flys into thrills in 2010 with a Flying coaster! ...need I say more? Six Flags doesn't have to sell this park to get rid of it, just never open it and ship the rides off to other properties. From the sounds of things to come, this may be a reality just beyond the horizon

^I guess that's a major factor I'm not aware of because of our predictalbe weather here ^^ it was delayed by three or for weeks. Intamin, Premire, and Vekoma could have delays up to 1 year.

I went to the park last night, as I was in the neighborhood and decided to see what was what. One train on Colossus, slow dispatches at Tatsu, and the park could have been a litte cleaner and better staffed, but other than that, I didn't see anything that was that horrible. And what trip would be complete without the last pic of the skyline! ...and Backward! Forward... The mighty Deja Vu! This airtime hill seems kinda unnecessary...now Green is Mean!! Up next, was the world famous question mark ride. The "Highlighter" Green Lantern! Up next was Batman-which also had no wait. ...more art... Artsy shots First ride in-Scream!...As you can see had no wait. ...but since the park was a ghost town I don't think anyone missed it much Log Jammer was closed... Tatsu holding down the hill Main gate shot

^I've watched Scream, Silver Bullet, and Tatsu go up, and B&M I can say is usually ahead of schedule when it comes to rides opening.

Well judging from the info. in the press release, I still look for this to be an "Air" type ride. That's not a bad thing of course. It just gives us an idea of wht the ride will be like. I'm looking to see a lot of lie-to fly, fly-to lie, and a lot of banked turns. No pretzel though. Maybe if Cedar Fair bought a flyer...but I doubt it.

I'd have to say that Mantis still takes the cake. Mantis is a certified POS. I can honestly say that is the worst B&M I've ridden.

My mistake. There are a handful of B&M's that don't have magnetic brakes after Silver Star, but I don't know why. I know Scream doesnt have any, but I thought all the flyers did, because Tatsu has them. I guest the train has to be going a certain speed or something, I don't know.

^No the air horn was added shortly after the ride opened. I heard from a reliable source that an operator was standing on the platform as the train dispatched.

^Based on that logic, how much longer will that be your favorite chain? It doesn't seem like it will be pushing those limits anytime soon.

^Over the midway a la Silver Bullet @KBF

Every rollercoaster there except Gold Rusher, Deja Vu and Superman have breakrooms under its station. With 7 people in Dispatch, including the panel operator, means 1 is operating the ride, one is training, and 5 are trainees. When do leads/trainers train 5 people at once? And if they're attendant training, why would they be in dispatch?

^Save it for Superman Krypton Coaster. One of the Best B&M's ever built!

^Well that all depends on when you visit, if your with a special group etc. Magic Mountain made an effort to have every ride opened on time and fully staffed on Tatsu's Media Day due to the media being there. Of course the park slipped back into it's old habbits once the news vans left and Del Holland went back to whereever it is he went when not in the park.

Yea, Xcelerator's banks are pretty close to inversions, but no one mentions it.

I'm stuck at 79 until I take my vacation to Dorney/Hersey/SFGAd next summer! 1. Viper SFMM (at the ripe age of 9!) 79. Pony Express KBF is the newest coaster I've been on.

^I agree. You can fill up a park with nothing but Intamin rides and no two rides would be alike. B&M on the other hand...I'm still not fully convinced that inverts and floorless trains create different rides. B&M isn't going to turn any heads until they build something with a launch, i mean with a launch they actually build themselves.

Well they still use friction brakes, but the magnets assist the friction brakes which reduces wear on the brake shoes and allows the trains to stop smoother in a shorter space.

The quality of the park hasn't improved that much for GP to spend that much on a season pass, there's still more ground that needs to be footed.

All B&M's after Silver Star have that magnetic mount right before the friction brakes.

That's to entice people to pay full price rather than paying half price with Taco Bell coupons.

Maverick 2007 Firehawk 2007 Tony Hawk's Big Spin SFoT 2008 Home park inclusion X 2001 Scream! 2003 Silver Bullet 2004 Tatsu 2006 Sierra Sidewinder 2007 Pony Express 2008

^Because all the $$$$ they make has to go to resolving a $2 billion dollar debt.

I rode Maverick in June of 07. 5 hour wait with 20 people ahead of us. Damn thing kept breaking down after maintainece signed off on it. I'm suprised no one mentioned Roger Rabit at Disneyland. I always thought it funny that the instant you walk in the queue, you have that wall with the window in it where you see the loading dock, so you think you're there, and then it takes that right turn into the extended queue house.

Working Batman sucks I can tell you!. The way the station is designed with the aluminum outer casing and the prefabricated rock inside, it works as a refridgerator in the winter and an oven in the summer.