AmyUD06

Nickelodeon owns 0% of any of their parks; it's just a licensing agreement. Triple Five built and owns both parks. And as best I could tell, Cedar Fair never owned any portion of the MoA park...it was an operating agreement they dumbed into when they bought Knott's. They also got out of it before it became NU. NU in American Dream is trashy because it's in NJ.

Seriously, all of you from outside the region that never experienced this can probably hold back their commentary. KBrylczyk and Boldikus are both correct: 99% of the drive-through safari will cause absolutely 0 damage to your car. The monkey/baboon section, if they allow you to go through it (and not use the bypass road that has almost always been available), will almost certainly cause some sort of damage to your car (scratched paint, pulled away trim, removed wipers or antennae, rips in vinyl, etc.). That's all there is to it. People with rental cars shouldn't be prohibited from going through it. They should probably avoid the monkey section, but if they choose not to, that's their choice to accept the possibility of damage to their rental. Source: Having been through it dozens of times as a kid and working at the park for 5 years in the department that initially received most complaints about damage to cars.

I highly doubt they will just to avoid the liability claims, but the road through the monkey exhibit still exists per Google Maps, even if it has seen better days. Theoretically, they could allow cars through there. Red = Road through monkey exhibit where they can jump on your cars. Green = Bypass road around monkey exhibit (separated by a fence).

Memberships never "end" on their own. The one year anniversary is just the minimum time you need to be enrolled, 12 months. You need to manually end your enrollment if you want out. If I recall correctly, if you choose to "pause" your membership, you lose out on all of the benefits of continued membership, which makes sense.

That is the best news I've heard out of that park since El Toro. I'm curious how it will work through since they completely destroyed the natural flow for cars into the Safari. Edit: Nevermind the second part. Looking at a map I see they could just loop cars through the waterpark entrance road, then have people exit through the service road between the old Safari Hospitality Lot and the main parking lot.

Until some toolbag Diamond/Elite members all decide to reserve every single day left in the season so that no one else will be able to book a day.

No I wouldn't call them "sacred." Just a willing acceptable loss if someone were to take it/mess with it, in the name of being a dick and holding tables/chairs that you aren't using.

Nice find! It's awesome to see how many businesses are still around, even if it's just the sign out front.

I didn't infer that at all from the CF-wide announcements today, which, BTW, were all word-for-word the same except for the bulleted part in the middle and the name at the top.

Not Kings Island, but I can say that the Paramount era at Kings Dominion resulted in some of the best innovation the park has seen in terms of coasters. Starting with Flight of Fear, followed by Volcano and Hypersonic XLC, they were kinda in the front-running of new technologies. I don't think it was as bad as many now make it seem.

When you're starving to death, which likely won't happen, because you obviously have some sort of support, you'll change your tune. I'm lucky enough to be still employed, but I know more people that are going broke or maxing out their credit cards just trying to survive (hint: the government unemployment programs *arent* paying people yet) than I do have even been confirmed infected with the virus, let alone died. I ask you a serious question, that I'd like a serious answer to: What do you propose we do if there is never a vaccine?

And clearly have some sort of support system (whether that may be savings, parents/family, government handouts, or whatever), otherwise you wouldn't think the way you do.

Which one is it? Hint: There's an edit button.

Except, as explained above, I'd half to say that at least half of a parks attendee's don't check a website before going, thus they will have no idea they need a reservation, and thus will make the 3 hour drive just to be turned away, regardless whether or not the park is "at capacity." Which, by the way, is a much bigger number than you can imagine it. In 6 years of working at SFGAdv, we only reached "capacity" twice, and they were both major concert nights. Even if parks reduced capacity by half, I highly doubt you'd see many days when a park would reach "capacity," especially given how many idiots are still going to be scared to venture out into public until there's a vaccine. I can count a few in this thread alone.

If that's all it is, I have no problem with it. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that the parks I go to frequently don't implement virtual queues.

You are over thinking it. Let's say they were supposed to open on May 1, but remain closed through the end of July. That's three months. That means, with your 2020 pass, you get the remainder of 2020, plus the first 3 months of 2021.

Fix'd.

Right? However, I will admit... It's interesting to see that coaster enthusiast are now also economist, governors, and people willing to sacrifice human life, even their loved ones... for a hair cut. Not to mention people willing to sacrifice the entire US economy and social system over a disease that kills only 7% of people it infects. See, I can be infantile and hurl insults, too. Still waiting on your answers as to how much suffering by the masses is acceptable to save a very small portion of human lives.

As I thought, you don't have answers that don't prove my point. Continue being childish though, by all means.

Quit misdirecting and answer my questions: In you opinion, what is an acceptable time to reopen the economy? What is an acceptable amount of people out of work?

Yet another deflection. For the record, I can't stand Fox News or any other major news network for that matter.

Nice job deflecting from the questions I asked. Yes, that would be acceptable. It would be horrible losing a close loved one; when things become personal they always hurt more. Would I be willing to sacrifice myself or one of them to keep millions if not billions of people from suffering the same fate? Yes. It may be "too soon" right now, but I ask again - when, in your minds, would it be acceptable to reopen? When the risk is zero? When a vaccine is developed? How do you propose to keep everyone who is not deemed "essential" surviving until that happens?

Fine, vilify me as one of the "big baddies" who "values money over people." What I said is the truth. You can't keep the economy closed forever. People need to work to put roofs over their heads and food in their families' stomachs. They're saying a vaccine is anywhere from 6-18 months out from the origin. Are you willing to keep life paused for millions or billions of people for a year and a half - no income, no haircuts, no education, no nothing, people and families going broke, losing their homes (landlords and banks need to feed their families too), resorting to crime, basically the collapse of society, to save maybe tens or hundreds of thousands? Yes, we as a society may be able to survive a month or two shut down. But six months? A year? What is your cutoff? What if there's never a vaccine, and it comes back in waves like the regular flu? Are we going to shut down the world every time there's a flare up? Is your option the government pays for everything? Rent/mortgages? Utilities, including internet? Food and clothing? Government money will run out at some point, sooner if they're not taking in taxes from all kinds of closed business and sales tax. Or they just keep printing money until its value plummets, and a gallon of milk costs $50. You say it's "valuing money over people," but it's not. It's valuing a continuing, functioning society. During H1N1, we did virtually nothing and lost between 150-280k people in the US. The world continued. It may be "cold," but its truth - if you want a functioning society, you need to let that society function and not grind everything to a halt. Yes, some people will die - more will die or be closer to death if you shut down the world for too long. If you were younger I could see having such a mindset...how someone only two years younger than me, in their mid-30s, can't see that boggles me.

Or if he values not completely trashing the economy, sending millions to the poor house, over a comparably inconsequential number of human lives. Sometimes we need to sacrifice the few to save the many, as sad as it is to say.

I sure hope not. I have no desire to get to a park and be told "sorry, you may not be able to ride this totally functioning ride based on random luck of the draw."